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Makes no sense, normal sampling only allows for modulating e.g. sample start points, playback speed/direction can only be modulated when using granular synthesis.

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but what should it MODULATE?
Granular / Wavetable modulates the position. The sample hasn't such a possibility

edit: Sampleconstruct was faster :)

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_TIP_ wrote:
100tifiko wrote:It would be cool if you can copy a SHAPE and paste it on the custom LFO to use it as an LFO MOD and also on the FM
+1
I agree 100%, that would be awesome especially for the fm!!!
Or better just use a different OSC as a modulation source, something on the lines of Modulator Oscillator in Massive: can go higher than a LFO, can keytrack and if needed can go in low frequency area by pitching the oscillator down.

Serum has something similar implemented with it's "Noise Oscillator" (which is basically a sampler, but loading a sine or any other waveshape and given the very large pitch-adjust range and also keytracking capability if needed, is making it a perfect modulation source)

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msvs wrote:but what should it MODULATE?
Granular / Wavetable modulates the position. The sample hasn't such a possibility

edit: Sampleconstruct was faster :)
Ups, I didn't know you can't modulate the position of a sample on Avenger. Anyway, never mind, it's good to know.

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msvs wrote: This DRUMS tab has an own browser ... fantastic things hiding there :)
That thing is the most frustrating thing in Avenger, I quit using it alltogether - I tried selecting customs sound with the lock feature then surprise! if I like the same Hat in two kits and I want to use them both, they have the same slot and I can't use them both. Then too many times already I want to reverse a sample (by the way this feature would be huge in regular Oscs) and, again, surprise! not possible. Not to mention that every time I have to continuously browse & load kits for audition... In all honesty, I don't even bother to listen the drums that come with new epansions, they generate way more frustration than results. You either make a proper browser (like in phalanx factory) or you don't :)

Same story with builtin file browser: if I open just 2 locations in Avenger's file browser it's just an endless scrolling contest. So back to Finder.

I really hope in a timely refresh for Phalanx, so I can stretch it properly on the screen without looking lowres and use that one for sample playback and Avenger for what's actually very capable to do. Wishing you all a frustration-free experience :)

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msvs wrote:good idea, we will check out if this is feasible
I hope it is possible so this would save a lot of time just copy and paste Shapes instead of trying to replicate drawing them this would be great also for the Vibrato
:pray:

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Just picked Avenger up the other day and wanted to say bravo Manuel and Rene. This synth has been so much fun to play with and there has clearly been a lot of thought put into it. I am excited to see how it continues to develop in the future.

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thank you very much!

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When we will see the new update?

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goleat wrote:Nice.

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This skin reminds one of sylenth1 v3 skins.

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Question, in the OSC section under the FM knob you can choose different modulator shapes, but there are also custom ones, how can you chance these, create your own Modulator shapes?

And if it were possible to modulate one OSC with an other OSC, that would be cool... like a real FM synth... The FM portion of Avenger is a bit limited... in that part is Serum more capable.

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mispoes wrote:Question, in the OSC section under the FM knob you can choose different modulator shapes, but there are also custom ones, how can you chance these, create your own Modulator shapes?

And if it were possible to modulate one OSC with an other OSC, that would be cool... like a real FM synth... The FM portion of Avenger is a bit limited... in that part is Serum more capable.
if i am not wrong , its in the editor tab , than choose at the bottom , free.

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mispoes wrote:Question, in the OSC section under the FM knob you can choose different modulator shapes, but there are also custom ones, how can you chance these, create your own Modulator shapes?
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Ooow, Thanks! :)

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i didnt understand
how did u get the same shape from the fm on the lfo

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