Thorn: Dmitry Sches' new synth!

[Synthman2000]

The more I think of it the more I am happy to fully accept each and every developers idea of what their own synth should look like. I don't question or second guess their vision on that front.

What the synth sounds like is what is critical compared with any GUI as long as it is not a complete mess or slowing work flow too much. I don't get skins either, they are a total waste of time IMO. The only use for them should be some kind of hard of seeing GUI's that should be standardized for those who have bad eyesight.

[chk071]

Frankly, i think any kind of visualization is quite helpful in wavetable, or spectral synths.

[Stefken]

The more I think of it the more I am happy to fully accept each and every developers idea of what their own synth should look like. I don't question or second guess their vision on that front.

What the synth sounds like is what is critical compared with any GUI as long as it is not a complete mess or slowing work flow too much. I don't get skins either, they are a total waste of time IMO. The only use for them should be some kind of hard of seeing GUI's that should be standardized for those who have bad eyesight.

One of the concepts of this synth is to put additive/spectral synthesis into a subtractive workflow. Why? Because that's what most people know. Hence, the importance of a UI and people like a lead UI designer.

[Sampleconstruct]

Demoed Thorn for about ten minutes, bought it, here is a first patch, improvised live on video. The good thing is, if you know Diversion, you know Thorn, similar setup, modulation system, nice...

[greedy.mf]

visualisations and 'watching knobs move' will mean more CPU tax. NO THANK YOU.
use your fecking EARS, or go use Serum.

kids these days

That's a nice advice.
I wonder why guitar fretboard is still marked at 3, 5, 7, 9, 12th etc fret.
Can't all whose Pages and Claptons just use their ears, geez...

As for CPU tax - for any additional dynamic feature - yes, the will be.
Will it be significant comparing to unison or FM or any audio processing? Unlikely.

It's not that all those calculations are ought to be done from ground up. It's already there. All you need is display it rendered at 60 Hz or whatever. And only on open instances.

I run six years old MBP with dual core i7. It certainly wouldn't mind doing some extra work.

[wagtunes]

visualisations and 'watching knobs move' will mean more CPU tax. NO THANK YOU.
use your fecking EARS, or go use Serum.

kids these days

That's a nice advice.
I wonder why guitar fretboard is still marked at 3, 5, 7, 9, 12th etc fret.
Can't all whose Pages and Claptons just use their ears, geez...

As for CPU tax - for any additional dynamic feature - yes, the will be.
Will it be significant comparing to unison or FM or any audio processing? Unlikely.

It's not that all those calculations are ought to be done from ground up. It's already there. All you need is display it rendered at 60 Hz or whatever. And only on open instances.

I run six years old MBP with dual core i7. It certainly wouldn't mind to do some extra work.

Wait a minute, what guitar fretboard has numbers on it? I've been playing guitar since the 60s and have yet to see a fretboard with numbers on it.

[greedy.mf]

visualisations and 'watching knobs move' will mean more CPU tax. NO THANK YOU.
use your fecking EARS, or go use Serum.

kids these days

That's a nice advice.
I wonder why guitar fretboard is still marked at 3, 5, 7, 9, 12th etc fret.
Can't all whose Pages and Claptons just use their ears, geez...

As for CPU tax - for any additional dynamic feature - yes, the will be.
Will it be significant comparing to unison or FM or any audio processing? Unlikely.

It's not that all those calculations are ought to be done from ground up. It's already there. All you need is display it rendered at 60 Hz or whatever. And only on open instances.

I run six years old MBP with dual core i7. It certainly wouldn't mind to do some extra work.

Wait a minute, what guitar fretboard has numbers on it? I've been playing guitar since the 60s and have yet to see a fretboard with numbers on it.

Mine
I'm kidding.

I didn't say there are numbers.
I said "marked'. Some with dots (and 12th with double dots). And some with skulls like BC Rich.

[Protocol_b]

A simple Q: does it accept program change? Tx!

[AstroCastro]

Yes, I have 5 external hard drives that I use as backup. Each one of them has all the songs I've ever made and all the project files. I just didn't find the time to backup the last year's worth. I also burn 25 gigabyte Blu-rays as backup as well. Even external hard drives can fail so it's best to spread out on as many mediums as possible. All this on top of a Cloud Drive would be a safe bet, for me I think. At the same time though, a Cloud Drive is nothing more than backing up my data on somebody else's hard drive, cuz in the end that is what it is.

I consider it a lesson learned, so from now on always backup my important information. Funny thing is, a few days before it happened it occurred to me that I should backup my computer. Funny.

Using Google Drive, Sync.com or similar services is way more useful than doing your own back ups.
You install the app, you set folders/paths, as soon as you hit save in your DAW it automatically uploads your stuff and keeps syncing files with your computer. You will get lazy sooner or later about doing back ups manually. If you used Google Drive all your projects wouldn't be lost because the app would be automatically uploading everything you were working on.

If shit happens, you just download the app and let it to sync files with your PC.
You set the paths in your DAW and that's it.

Other than this, FL Studio has one awesome feature: saving projects as zip files.
Basically, it puts all samples (audio files) used in your project in a zip file. This way you don't even have to bother of backing up samples and loops which you have, backing up gigabytes of samples.
That's why I can now open project I was working on in FL Studio 6, 10 years ago, and to still have samples I used in that track, stuff like kicks, snares, hihats, etc., while those samples have been deleted long time ago. It also puts IR's which you used in Fruity Convolver or samples you used in FPC (drum sampler), etc.
This feature all DAW's should have. It's a must have.
Today you spent hours on finding the right kick or snare or designing them from scratch, next day the only thing you have is a project file that informs you about missing samples when you hdd dies.
This includes things like when you are freezing your tracks, etc. It's a pain.
There's literally no better way to back up your project than having to option to export it with everything zipped and then opening that zip file in your DAW as a regular project, like it is in FL Studio.
It just reduces the amount of stuff you need to back up drastically.

[greedy.mf]

AFAIK Splice has backup/collaboration technology.
Didn't try it.

As for Google Drive - I had been using it for my Logic X projects backup. The nature of folder/file structure of LPX project is that it frequently updates smaller files. Instead of deleting obsolete files Google stacked them in Trash folder and I used all my space. And I could not delete them at once, only page by page.

[Stefken]

I wonder why guitar fretboard is still marked at 3, 5, 7, 9, 12th etc fret.
Can't all whose Pages and Claptons just use their ears, geez...

I guess you drive stick then because an automatic transmission is just too easy?

The popularity of Serum is partly because of the UI. (A lot of people find the sound too harsh, so it's not because of the oscillators).

Anyway, it's just a preference thing.

[wagtunes]

visualisations and 'watching knobs move' will mean more CPU tax. NO THANK YOU.
use your fecking EARS, or go use Serum.

kids these days

That's a nice advice.
I wonder why guitar fretboard is still marked at 3, 5, 7, 9, 12th etc fret.
Can't all whose Pages and Claptons just use their ears, geez...

As for CPU tax - for any additional dynamic feature - yes, the will be.
Will it be significant comparing to unison or FM or any audio processing? Unlikely.

It's not that all those calculations are ought to be done from ground up. It's already there. All you need is display it rendered at 60 Hz or whatever. And only on open instances.

I run six years old MBP with dual core i7. It certainly wouldn't mind to do some extra work.

Wait a minute, what guitar fretboard has numbers on it? I've been playing guitar since the 60s and have yet to see a fretboard with numbers on it.

Mine
I'm kidding.

I didn't say there are numbers.
I said "marked'. Some with dots (and 12th with double dots). And some with skulls like BC Rich.

And you're comparing THAT to oscillator animation?

This forum really needs a face palm emoticon.

[cb8rwh]

I think you, wagtunes, are the last person that should be mocking people for requesting a visual feature.

[wagtunes]

I think you, wagtunes, are the last person that should be mocking people for requesting a visual feature.

Oh please. You can't possibly compare being able to read the letters on an interface to seeing waveforms dancing on screen.

It's ludicrous to compare the two.

[greedy.mf]

I wonder why guitar fretboard is still marked at 3, 5, 7, 9, 12th etc fret.
Can't all whose Pages and Claptons just use their ears, geez...

I guess you drive stick then because an automatic transmission is just too easy?

The popularity of Serum is partly because of the UI. (A lot of people find the sound too harsh, so it's not because of the oscillators).

I hope Halloween sale on Sarcasm Detectors is coming.
Also good occasion to drive (broom)stick.

Jokes aside, I'm all for simplicity.
As for Serum - it's as harsh or warm as the wavetables you feed it. Tons of chaos mods for WT pos and warp, French filter and touch of tube distortion and you're set.

http://sound.artenuovo.com/warmed.html is quite ..um.. warm