Echoes in the Attic wrote: If Live went full MPE and Push 3 was like a linnstrument where the grid squares were connected allowing bending from one note to another, I'd switch back to Live from Bitwig as well. Using everything in one controller like that would be great.
which is it man ?Echoes in the Attic wrote: The cool thing about the size of the push pads is that they are just big enough to play drum hits with two fingers for faster sequences. That's harder with the linnstrument. Push should leave it's pads the same size but allow gliding between them. Would such an awesome controller.
you seem to be saying contradictory things.
At any rate, check the posts from pdxindy and I prior to this last reply of yours. I had not realised that linnstrument does in fact have gaps, something analogous in feeling to frets, between the pads. I had mistakenly thought the linnstrument was a continuous pad (i.e one continuous smooth surface), and the grid was printed on as a visual guide. As someone who was intrested in the linnstrument (though only a cursory 'that will be something i might seriously consider when LIVE gets full MPE support' level of interest, hence having erroneous ideas about how it feels for example) that is yet another favourable feature, for my tastes. So, as you can infer from the previous messages between pdxindy and I, when you said you wished a PUSH hardware update would be like the linnstrument - in replying to that I erroneously assumed that meant one continuous, smooth pad. Knowing that the linnstrument is actually a grid of what feels like individual pads that you can glide between, and what you're saying now about leaving the PUSH pads as they are - just allow gliding .... well of course, why wouldn't I support that ? If it functions the same, and most importantly keeps the feel I prefer, and delivers more function. win ... what's not to support.
as far as single, continuous pads, like the ROLI .... ya, listen, I know what quantisation is, how it works. When i first expressed my reluctance to your suggestion (not fully understanding how a linnstrument felt), i referred to it in terms of 'want' rather than 'need' ... when you asked why I 'needed' it, I should have stuck with my initial choice of verb - 'want' .... because I understand, of course, that the technology doesn't 'need' frets to figure out what note I most likely want to play when i strike a region. I want the feeling of indvidual pads though, out of preference ... having a physical feeling of where one note starts and ends is useful to an amateur like me.
Feel aside .... I'm still skeptical how a single large continuous pad, be it continuous underneath but individual grid feeling on the surface or continuous underneath and on the surface, would fair against a typical, bona fide beat box style individual pads controller. Just in terms of abuse, velocity sensitivity, and longevity after continuous beatings (is that a pun?). I'd like more convincing on that.
But sure, a PUSH 3, functionally something akin to a linnstrument but with the pads sized and feeling as they are currently on the PUSH ... I can't really say I'd have much against that, conceptually, other than maybe some durability concerns that could be alleviated with more research, positive user feedback etc.
