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] Peter:H [ · Post by **] Peter:H [** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:19 pm

generaldiomedes wrote:Has anyone notified Urs about this ? Would be nice to hear from him in the thread.

I've put a post in the U-He Forum here at KVR: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=493606

TrojakEW · Post by **TrojakEW** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:39 pm

generaldiomedes wrote:My song has been changed an unhealthy number times since the original, post updated with current FX.

Thanks to TrojakEW for the comments, drum track revamped and break added as a result, plus a few other minor additions and a faster tempo.

JKF Flashico wrote: Hi again! I have again update my track 'cause it was bit out of tune thanks for TrojakEw tip I hope it is now more tune

Uff guys hope I'm not much a burden. It was just my opinion and it doesn't mean I'm right. It is I just feel it that way. Same goes for my other comments on all other tracks here. Dont take them too serious. Everyone have different view on everything and music is no exception. Rather wait for comments from more skilled guys here.

Sidom · Post by **Sidom** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:42 pm

Hello. This is my second time participating in One Synth Challenge. When making music, I usually use various samples, pitch them up/down, stretch, resample and manipulate them in almost every imaginable way, so it's no surprise that these one synth challenges are always a step outside my comfort zone. I had a limited amount of time, and I've never actually tried using Zebralette, so this OSC was an interesting experience.

The track is far from perfect and what I have imagined it to be in the end. Also, it has flaws here and there (like we all humans do

), the mix and mastering are almost certainly lousy (because I don't have monitors and use cheap headphones

) and whole arrangement could also be a bit better. Nevertheless, I won't change anything anymore and leave the track as is.

I hope that some of you will like it and I wish all of you good luck!

https://soundcloud.com/sidom/flying-ove ... vr-osc-104

Reaper v5.50 64-bit

19 instances of u-he Zebralette. All sounds are modified presets: some are factory, others are from u-he's PatchLib and this thread (thank you guys).

15x ReaEQ
7x CodeFN42 Chordz (I suck at music theory, so this tool really comes in handy)
2x TAL-Reverb-4
2x ReaComp
2x Musical Entropy Spaceship Delay
1x ReaDelay
1x Variety of Sounds FerricTDS (drum bus only)
1x Vladg/sound Limiter No.6

] Peter:H [ · Post by **] Peter:H [** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:49 pm

functionform wrote:As it gets closer to deadline, I'm finally feeling like I "get" this synth. It's insane. I totally got a one note hero thing going on right now that I wont use in my track, but I'm so glad I decided to get into this. I'll definitely be using Zebralette more after. Just gotta finish my track!

Did Peter import samples into Zebralette? That opening is crazy.

Yes, I have played around a lot to squeeze some samples into the wavetables.
Watch this video: One guy says "Stukas" at around 10 seconds, s. . That is actually the source of the "Stukas" voice in my track. But it was really hard to squeeze it in. I ended up with actually 4 wavetables for the "syllables" "S", "Tu", "Ka", "S".
A bit of the background:
A Zebralette wavtable consists of 16 slots with 128 samples, giving you a total of 16 * 128 samples (more recent wavetable synths like tone2 icarus have 256 slots with 2048 samples each). Usually a slot contains, what you call "a single cycle of a waveform" (one square, or one sawtooth). You can for instance sample any of your favourite synths at I think the note was F3 at 44100 Hz to get a single cycle with 128 samples...I think you can do the maths on your own. If you repeat that single cycle over and over, it will play a note at a given pitch.

I went a different route with the samples. Combine the 16 slots with a Envelope that scans through all the slots in a linear fashion going from slot 1 to 16 AND using the right note, so that the content of each slot is only played once...So the slots that have been parts of a larger sample are now glued together again by this approach.

The other source sample "Angriff!" (= "Attack!" in english) was created by a text to speach programm balabolka and then processed a bit differently. I have computed a resampling ratio in order to get a size in sample that is a multiple of 16 * 128. I let wavosaur do the resampling and the just split up the resulting sample into 16 regions and exported them for use in just one wavetable.

All that wouldn't have been possible without the wave2zebra utility that I mentioned earlier in this thread.

There's clearly some limits to this and I wasn't able to squeeze any sample into it. For instance the sirene sound of a stuka was not recognizeable at all. Other samples I have used more succesfully were a synthesized basedrum, a china crash, a female voice "ahhh" and a snare...as this all came out a bit "dirty" the track got it's noisy feel...

toonertik · Post by **toonertik** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:06 pm

] Peter:H [ wrote: Yes, I have played around a lot to squeeze some samples into the wavetables.
Watch this video: One guy says "Stukas" at around 10 seconds, s. That is actually the source of the "Stukas" voice in my track. But it was really hard to squeeze it in. I ended up with actually 4 wavetables for the "syllables" "S", "Tu", "Ka", "S".
A bit of the background:
A Zebralette wavtable consists of 16 slots with 128 samples, giving you a total of 16 * 128 samples (more recent wavetable synths like tone2 icarus have 256 slots with 2048 samples each). Usually a slot contains, what you call "a single cycle of a waveform" (one square, or one sawtooth). You can for instance sample any of your favourite synths at I think the note was F3 at 44100 Hz to get a single cycle with 128 samples...I think you can do the maths on your own. If you repeat that single cycle over and over, it will play a note at a given pitch.

I went a different route with the samples. Combine the 16 slots that with a Envelope that scans through all the slots in a linear fashion going from slot 1 to 16 AND using the right note, so that the content of each slot is only played once...So the slots that have been parts of a larger sample are now glued together again by this approach.

The other source sample "Angriff!" (= "Attack!" in english) was created by a text to speach programm balabolka and then processed a bit differently. I have computed a resampling ratio in order to get a size in sample that is a multiple of 16 * 128. I let wavosaur do the resampling and the just split up the resulting sample into 16 regions and exported them.

All that wouldn't have been possible without the wave2zebra utility that I mentioned earlier in this thread.

There's clearly some limits to this and I wasn't able to squeeze any sample into it. For instance the sirene sound of a stuka was not recognizeable at all. Other samples I have used more succesfully were a synthesized basedrum, a china crash, a female voice "ahhh" and a snare...as this all came out a bit "dirty" the track got it's noisy feel...

Yes.. as I imagined... I tried to get the word "player" to WavTble but needed more time.. although some of the sounds I used were generated from wave2zebra.. I also tried a new tool called http://synthtech.com/waveedit, which spits out 64 frames/slots.. my idea was to try and compress then load to wav2zebra... not enough time to perfect BUT shows promise )))
BTW.. both the drunk conga and wasted bass player were just one instance of zebralette each.. it is an amazing wee synth

baalisoda · Post by **baalisoda** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:42 am

Sidom wrote: https://soundcloud.com/sidom/flying-ove ... vr-osc-104

One of the very enjoyable track that i have heard in this month's OSC.

Good Luck!

mmGhost · Post by **mmGhost** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:19 am

ez crew, my submission to OSC 104 below.

"Those Good Times"

48 Zebralette
Logic Pro X

DAW FX
EQs, compressors, overdrive, limiter, adaptive limiter, enveloper, silververb, platinumverb, stereo delay, multipressor, all the normal stuff

Third party freebies
Audio Damage Rough Rider (Drum Bus)
W1 Limiter (for sound design)
Voxengo MSED
OTT compressor

Other track notes
No imported wavetables, all done w/ stuff built into the synth, out of the tin.
Vocal-stabs done with formant FX built into Zebralette, some automation, pitch envelope, and deliberate use of MSEG and LFO

Some of my patches used in this track attached to post.

https://soundcloud.com/mmghost/those-good-times

generaldiomedes · Post by **generaldiomedes** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:06 am

TrojakEW wrote: Uff guys hope I'm not much a burden. It was just my opinion and it doesn't mean I'm right. It is I just feel it that way. Same goes for my other comments on all other tracks here. Dont take them too serious. Everyone have different view on everything and music is no exception. Rather wait for comments from more skilled guys here.

Just speaking for myself, I can't get helpful feedback from friends or family .. they say 'sounds great!' so anything I can get is a bonus.

Daru925 · Post by **Daru925** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:38 am

EDIT: Added FX's list.

All patches from scratch except one preset that really inspired me.

I went for the classic sync sound and over the top cheesy melody

Now i can relax and listen to others' tracks

https://soundcloud.com/daru925/caustics

DAW Live 9.7.5
U-He Zebralette x 25

Limiter6
Multiband dynamics
Span
MOscilloscope
PinkNoise (mixing tool)
Eq 8 x 21
Tal Reverb x 4
Reverb x 3
Compressor x 5
Glue Compressor x 8
Utility x 3
Ozone Imager x 5
Overdrive x 1
Autofilter x 4
Autopan x 2
Transpire
Gate
Arpeggiator

A burning laptop, LPD8, M-Audio Mini 32, HD25-1 and lots of coffee.

] Peter:H [ · Post by **] Peter:H [** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:32 am

Just a quick note - I have updated my track
1.) I found some out-of-harmony notes that I have removed in the updated version (anybody noticed the track is in dorian?

2.) I finally figured out how I could use TDR Nova Dynamic EQ Feature with Sidechain input in Cubase: Quadtrack is the (dubios) solution.
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And I have found the blog post again, which describes how to do "Ultra Depth", just in case you're interested: http://www.masteringtuition.com/index.php/secret-no-1
All of the required steps can be done with free plugins from MeldaProduction, primarily MUtility, s. https://www.meldaproduction.com/MUtility

kokotte · Post by **kokotte** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:51 am

Here my sub:
147 zebralettes instances,
Daw live 9 7
Ableton fx : Eq 8, multiband comp, simple delay, reverb,gate,vocoder(without any carrier, just the band pass filter is used),utility, auto pan, auto filter, saturator and amp; a little, glue compressor.
xfer dimension exp and limiter 6
all sound come from Init, i have spend a lot of time on drum synthesis and growly things.
i hope you will enjoy this dubstep track.

https://soundcloud.com/kokotteonline/kokotte-get-up

Dee.P.Tree · Post by **Dee.P.Tree** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:27 am

[Updated Post With Track Details, Update Time: 8.27 PM, UTC-8]

[Update: 2, Soundcloud link updated.]

This is my entry for this month.

Track Name: Bageshri Meets IMDeePTree

DAW: FL Studio

No of Zebralette Instances: 26

FX:

External: Tessla SE, Span, Limiter No6, RescueMK2, TAL Reverb 4

Internal: Fruity Parametric EQ 2, Fruity Limiter, Soundgoodizer, Fruity Blood Overdrive, Fruity Compressor, Fruity Delay 2, Fruity Multiband Compressor, Fruity Delay, Fruity Fast Dist, Fruity Reeverb 2

Lots of Automation is used.

This track is based on/inspired from Indian Raga Bageshri (without experimentation with tuning this time; with normal Western12 Equal Temperament tuning, so it will sound familier.)

A progressive, dark, melodic (dance?) music, repetitive techno-ish with trance-y bassline track.

Some sounds designed from scratch and some are from u-he website (and modified according to requirement).

Enjoy.

https://soundcloud.com/dee-p-tree/bages ... mdeeptree/

Thank you all and best of luck.

J.Ruegg · Post by **J.Ruegg** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:23 pm

kokotte wrote:Here my sub:
147 zebralettes instances,
Daw live 9 7
Ableton fx : Eq 8, multiband comp, simple delay, reverb,gate,vocoder(without any carrier, just the band pass filter is used),utility, auto pan, auto filter,glue compressor.
xfer dimension exp and limiter 6
all sound come from Init, i have spend a lot of time on drum synthesis and growly things.
i hope you will enjoy this dubstep track.

https://soundcloud.com/kokotteonline/kokotte-get-up

Also, new instance # record I guess.

Armagibbon · Post by **Armagibbon** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:32 pm

Some damn good tracks in here gettin all inspired now... f*ck if work didn't eat my life til new years id make some shit to balance it all out ahahaha

Dj Pomme · Post by **Dj Pomme** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:43 pm

kokotte wrote:Here my sub:
147 zebralettes instances,
Daw live 9 7
Ableton fx : Eq 8, multiband comp, simple delay, reverb,gate,vocoder(without any carrier, just the band pass filter is used),utility, auto pan, auto filter,glue compressor.
xfer dimension exp and limiter 6
all sound come from Init, i have spend a lot of time on drum synthesis and growly things.
i hope you will enjoy this dubstep track.

How does all that even fit in your computer

What kind of liquid-nitrogen-cooled CPU have you

One Synth Challenge #104 - Zebralette by u-he (Photonic Wins!)