Wavelab 9.5 is released.
New features:
[*]Updated Spectral Editor and Spectrogram
[*]New Wavelet display and Audio Inpainting
[*]Tab for Error Correction tools
[*]New RestoreRig (Sonnox restoration plugins are not listed anymore)
[*]Updated plugins
[*]And some more features
The upgrades are more expensive:
update from 9 to 9.5 is 59,99 euro
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Wavelab is great. I use it a lot. I use Wavelab for quickly editing a large amount of files, mastering and batchprocessing. But I always get better results with Izotope RX when I want to remove noise or a sound. Even timestretching and pitchshifting is much better in RX. I hope the new feature in Wavelab can compete with RX, but I doubt it.
WaveLab 9.5
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Yep, just saw that too. The upgrade from Wavelab Elements 9 to 9.5 is 19,99 €. I think i'll go for it.
BTW, Steinberg offers a "Download Assistant" now, and, actually, obviously, there isn't another way to download Wavelab Elements, or Pro now.
BTW, Steinberg offers a "Download Assistant" now, and, actually, obviously, there isn't another way to download Wavelab Elements, or Pro now.
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
Interesting that the prices go up now. Then again, we're still talking about a mainly 1-man project. So Cubase and Nuendo's upgrade prices could be different. Or.... economy... 
I'm actually surprised that Cubase didn't see the 9.5 upgrade first, but there is still IMSTA Festa in Berlin this weekend, and we still have two months of the year left.
The "updated plugins (rebuilt from the ground up)" however give me the impression, that this will also be a part of C9.5 - nothing I'd necessarily look forward to. So I'm definitely curious what from those will find it's way into C9.5 and be declared as "brand new" (well - coming from the standpoint of a Wavelab and Cubase user - mere Cubase or Nuendo users might think different).
Updates of the Spectrogram and Spectral Editor is nice, but nothing I'd rave home about. Funny enough, Wavelab has a lot(!) of catch up to do - considering iZotope's RX. And wow... the SONNOX Plugins are dropped now? Not surprising either. I'd be more pissed if the Fraunhofer ProCODEC deal would have been dropped.
Interesting to see, that the DeClicker/DeNoiser/DeHummer have the same font stylizing as iZotope RX. After the MBit+, another collaboration? Wouldn't be against it - RX is the top tier in terms of restoration suites.
And am I reading this right? Is the "add audio snipped on recurring times" batch process (Audio Mixer) actually an adaption of this one VOXENGO thing? Definitely sounds like a variant of it. Nice addition, but not ground breaking.
The Process Delay... that's somewhat a different issue though. I still remember certain plugins having issues with "initial transients" on offline rendering and batch processing (Line6 PODfam comes to mind).
The "Download Assistant" is a bit troubling me. I'm still a fan of plain ISO's. I don't want another manager on my HDD that takes away my freedom to install/backup things.
Also... DDP Standalone player good and fine, but... HOFA DDP Player is like... 12 bucks, and was super simple to begin with.
As Windows user, not a huge fan of the "Apple Touch Bar" features. To me, that's just a gimmick.
Overall - I'm not too thrilled of updating yet(!!!). I'll wait a couple of weeks bar minimum, see how this evolves into. Maybe I'll sit this one out entirely. It's not like I can't use WL9.0.x still, and I'm mostly doing edit work in Cubase anyway...
I'm kind of surprised that Surround wasn't a huge topic (the way it was pushed in the industry recently), or the long requested Multi-Track recording... maybe with WL10... But I do understand the need to "catch up" on spectral editing capabilities.
And who thought it was a good idea to make promo videos rendered down to 1080p from a 2k video resolution? You can barely read anything on screen.
Also... the "bleep censor" generator from the marker menu is just hilarious.
I'm actually surprised that Cubase didn't see the 9.5 upgrade first, but there is still IMSTA Festa in Berlin this weekend, and we still have two months of the year left.
The "updated plugins (rebuilt from the ground up)" however give me the impression, that this will also be a part of C9.5 - nothing I'd necessarily look forward to. So I'm definitely curious what from those will find it's way into C9.5 and be declared as "brand new" (well - coming from the standpoint of a Wavelab and Cubase user - mere Cubase or Nuendo users might think different).
Updates of the Spectrogram and Spectral Editor is nice, but nothing I'd rave home about. Funny enough, Wavelab has a lot(!) of catch up to do - considering iZotope's RX. And wow... the SONNOX Plugins are dropped now? Not surprising either. I'd be more pissed if the Fraunhofer ProCODEC deal would have been dropped.
Interesting to see, that the DeClicker/DeNoiser/DeHummer have the same font stylizing as iZotope RX. After the MBit+, another collaboration? Wouldn't be against it - RX is the top tier in terms of restoration suites.
And am I reading this right? Is the "add audio snipped on recurring times" batch process (Audio Mixer) actually an adaption of this one VOXENGO thing? Definitely sounds like a variant of it. Nice addition, but not ground breaking.
The Process Delay... that's somewhat a different issue though. I still remember certain plugins having issues with "initial transients" on offline rendering and batch processing (Line6 PODfam comes to mind).
The "Download Assistant" is a bit troubling me. I'm still a fan of plain ISO's. I don't want another manager on my HDD that takes away my freedom to install/backup things.
Also... DDP Standalone player good and fine, but... HOFA DDP Player is like... 12 bucks, and was super simple to begin with.
As Windows user, not a huge fan of the "Apple Touch Bar" features. To me, that's just a gimmick.
Overall - I'm not too thrilled of updating yet(!!!). I'll wait a couple of weeks bar minimum, see how this evolves into. Maybe I'll sit this one out entirely. It's not like I can't use WL9.0.x still, and I'm mostly doing edit work in Cubase anyway...
I'm kind of surprised that Surround wasn't a huge topic (the way it was pushed in the industry recently), or the long requested Multi-Track recording... maybe with WL10... But I do understand the need to "catch up" on spectral editing capabilities.
And who thought it was a good idea to make promo videos rendered down to 1080p from a 2k video resolution? You can barely read anything on screen.
Also... the "bleep censor" generator from the marker menu is just hilarious.
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
TBH, i don't see the point in the thing. All it does is download the installers of very few Steinberg products for you. On the other hand, the download section on the Steinberg site wasn't exactly assessable and user friendly either, so, i guess the Assistant is mainly for the "I don't want to have to look for anything" crowd. Just a shame that they obviously make it mandatory for their new products.Compyfox wrote: The "Download Assistant" is a bit troubling me. I'm still a fan of plain ISO's. I don't want another manager on my HDD that takes away my freedom to install/backup things.
I'd be ok with something like Native Access, which actually automates BOTH the download, and installation process (even though i dislike to have all those additional programs on my system too...), but, i don't need a pure downloader, i can download the installers myself.
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
Getting the Native Instruments ACCESS software vibes here. Only in this case, you've been stripped COMPLETELY of any rights where to install, or even store backups. It downloads, it installs without asking, then deletes the download. Want to install at a later state, rinse and repeat.
Not too happy about this.
But should I go to IMSTA Festa this weekend, I could ask the Steinberg reps what's the bigger game behind that concept is. The "download dropdown" and the account handling was fairly simple IMO.
Not too happy about this.
But should I go to IMSTA Festa this weekend, I could ask the Steinberg reps what's the bigger game behind that concept is. The "download dropdown" and the account handling was fairly simple IMO.
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- KVRAF
- 3222 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
It is a nice update and the price is fine but where is the automation? Without it there is no compelling reason to master in Wavelab when the essential feature of automation is absent and you can do more in Cubase. I upgraded regardless.
kiezum wrote:Wavelab 9.5 is released.
New features:
[*]Updated Spectral Editor and Spectrogram
[*]New Wavelet display and Audio Inpainting
[*]Tab for Error Correction tools
[*]New RestoreRig (Sonnox restoration plugins are not listed anymore)
[*]Updated plugins
[*]And some more features
The upgrades are more expensive:
update from 9 to 9.5 is 59,99 euro
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Wavelab is great. I use it a lot. I use Wavelab for quickly editing a large amount of files, mastering and batchprocessing. But I always get better results with Izotope RX when I want to remove noise or a sound. Even timestretching and pitchshifting is much better in RX. I hope the new feature in Wavelab can compete with RX, but I doubt it.
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- KVRAF
- 3222 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Yes the app installs.. it downloads the complete installer but when launched the installer senses that you have an earlier version and it goes into update mode. Regardless the bigger time consumption comes from the rescanning of plugins.
chk071 wrote:It does actually install the software? It didn't here, with Wavelab Elements 9.5.
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
I'm agreeing on the "automation" criticism...
Has been a huge issue for years. I just... don't like using the montage other than for creating DDPs...
Then again... I'm currently eyeing going the HOFA DDP route...
Has been a huge issue for years. I just... don't like using the montage other than for creating DDPs...
Then again... I'm currently eyeing going the HOFA DDP route...
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- KVRAF
- 35689 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I see. Maybe it didn't do that here because i didn't execute it as an admin user.Scotty wrote:Yes the app installs.. it downloads the complete installer but when launched the installer senses that you have an earlier version and it goes into update mode. Regardless the bigger time consumption comes from the rescanning of plugins.
chk071 wrote:It does actually install the software? It didn't here, with Wavelab Elements 9.5.
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- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
The manager does habe a download location setting. And a don't delete Option. Its mainly because people
Have trouble finishing the kardge downloads
Have trouble finishing the kardge downloads
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
Funny that you mention it. I kind of expected Cubase 9.5 to hit around this time first. This announcement caught me off guard. Maybe we'll see a longer release cycle for Cubase again?bundoo wrote:looks nice....as an aside when is cubase 9.5 due? be great if it has this spectral stuff
*there is hope*
I don't think we'll see a "spectral editor" in Cubase... C9 made it possible to integrate Wavelab easily again. So I guess the plan is to keep Wavelab as in-depth wave editor, and Cubase as main production tool. But I'm fairly sure we'll see the overhauled plugins (currently a "selling point" of the Upgrade) in C9.5 as well. They do(!) look better than before - but I'm still not... er... "feeling" them.
Interesting... then again, I'm not an early adopter in terms of patches and upgrades. And I also used third party download managers.SJ_Digriz wrote:The manager does habe a download location setting. And a don't delete Option. Its mainly because people
Have trouble finishing the kardge downloads
Anybody in for a "guess when the demo version will be released"?
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
Mini update...
Was at IMSTA Festa today. I only got tight lips in terms of info of course, but apparently, Cubase 9.5 will still be released this year. We still have two months left for this year, let's see if this will happen or not.
Was at IMSTA Festa today. I only got tight lips in terms of info of course, but apparently, Cubase 9.5 will still be released this year. We still have two months left for this year, let's see if this will happen or not.