KVR Audio

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:01 am

Also, with respect to the restrictions here, is anyone aware of an Alloy/Neutron like plugin? I'm not talking about the smart features of Neutron, just the integrated channel strip that has a modern functional workflow with a graphic U/I for all frequency related functions.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:09 am

Geforce software is serial based if i recall

https://www.gforcesoftware.com/products

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:00 am

FYI, UVI uses iLok but they allow 3 activations.

2CAudio uses serial numbers only. That's a major reason why I like them.

You can't buy it any more, but Camel Audio embedded your licenses with your unique download, including presets. Super-convenient.

Plogue, Tritik, Audiority, LVC-Audio, Soundemote, use an encrypted personal license file. Plogue is really interesting since the license file is a PNG image with your registration information readable.

I really like HoRNet since they totally oppose DRM. Same with Freakshow Industries. I'm not sure but I think Soundspot doesn't use DRM either. Fathom doesn't use DRM... sorta. The zip file it comes in requires a password.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:10 am

MOTU Digital Performer is cross platform, and also validates through a serial.
Cakewalk SONAR may also be installed on as many machines as you want (but not cross platform).
Reason also don't limit the number of installations (you can run by logging in to your account over the Internet)
Tracktion also doesn't put limit in the number if installs, AFAIK
Harrison Mixbus is also cross platform and with unlimited installs

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:10 am

Already listed but I really like Reapers Portable install capability; I literally have the guts of my soft studio on a USB stick to plug in wherever I want.

HoRNet · Post by **HoRNet** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:31 am

Hi guys, i felt I need to make more clear that we don't have any technical limits on the number of install you can make of our plugins, but our license clearly states that you can install the plugin in 2 different computers and a backup copy.

I don't like to enforce license term because i like to believe that we can still trust each other, simply this.

Thank you
Saverio

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:03 am

GaryG wrote:Already listed but I really like Reapers Portable install capability; I literally have the guts of my soft studio on a USB stick to plug in wherever I want.

Agreed. This also requires plugins that support the idea, i.e., validity of license isn't contained in the registry.

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:06 pm

The Plug&Mix Bundle is Mac/Windows and 64-bit. Unlocked with an activation code.

IL stuff is no hassle, but I can't vouch for the stability of the Mac versions, so you might be right to discount them.

Are your computers running different OSes?

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:09 pm

sjm wrote:The Plug&Mix Bundle is Mac/Windows and 64-bit. Unlocked with an activation code.

IL stuff is no hassle, but I can't vouch for the stability of the Mac versions, so you might be right to discount them.

Are your computers running different OSes?

Mine are yes. In fact, I don't think that I have any two machines with the same OS on them. In particular though, I use both macs and pcs for music.

surreal · Post by **surreal** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:27 pm

Synth1 and Tyrell highly recommended.. no restrictions or install counts!!

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:30 pm

Acon Digital
https://acondigital.com/

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:32 pm

ghettosynth wrote:In particular though, I use both macs and pcs for music.

Is there an advantage to doing that? I can see the immediate disadvantage (only software that runs on both is interesting, as you stated in your opening post), but I'm assuming there are also some benefits, otherwise you wouldn't be going it this way, right?

Genuinely curious as to what the advantages are. And for context, I haven't used a Mac since leaving school 20 years ago (iMac), so I've no idea what they're like these days. So don't make any assumptions

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:33 pm

yellowmix wrote:FYI, UVI uses iLok but they allow 3 activations.

Yeah, I have one of their products, nice, but, no dice for this list.

2CAudio uses serial numbers only. That's a major reason why I like them.

I didn't know that, cool.

You can't buy it any more, but Camel Audio embedded your licenses with your unique download, including presets. Super-convenient.

Cool, but too bad that you can't buy it and that is an automatic dis-qualifier.

Plogue, Tritik, Audiority, LVC-Audio, Soundemote, use an encrypted personal license file. Plogue is really interesting since the license file is a PNG image with your registration information readable.

Cool, that's good to know. I've been thinking about settling on Bidule, I need to demo it again. I hate it's U/I tools but it's the only tool like that which meets all of my requirements for such a tool, so, it may have to do. I'll look up the others and see if I want to add them to the list.

I really like HoRNet since they totally oppose DRM. Same with Freakshow Industries. I'm not sure but I think Soundspot doesn't use DRM either.

Unfortunately, Hornet felt that they needed to remind everyone about their license terms, so they're off the list. People can still read about them in the thread, but, the top list will be the vendors that I think meet the "best of" criteria. That criteria, for me, includes not being too uptight but also a quality level in terms of the software. I have some Hornet plugins, they're ok, I don't use them. I'm looking for NI/Cockos levels of indifference to usage for average home users.

Soundspot also doesn't meet my personal quality criteria.

Fathom doesn't use DRM... sorta. The zip file it comes in requires a password.

That seems odd, do you just mean a normal zip file password? Is it unique to each customer? What's the point? I don't get it.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:47 pm

sjm wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:In particular though, I use both macs and pcs for music.
Is there an advantage to doing that? I can see the immediate disadvantage (only software that runs on both is interesting, as you stated in your opening post), but I'm assuming there are also some benefits, otherwise you wouldn't be going it this way, right?

Genuinely curious as to what the advantages are. And for context, I haven't used a Mac since leaving school 20 years ago (iMac), so I've no idea what they're like these days. So don't make any assumptions

So if you haven't used a Mac in 20 years then you may not have the perspective to appreciate what's great about Macs now. It isn't the hardware IMNSHO, in fact, I really dislike most aspects of their hardware. They have not been more reliable for me, in fact, to the contrary, they have been consistently less reliable than the PCs that I have purchased and consistently more expensive. The only thing that I do like about the hardware is the styling.

So why I do like Macs is OS X. I don't find it easier to use, per se, the entire Mac is easy thing never washed with me, I hated OS9 and predecessors. What I like about OS X is that it is very much a unix underneath and I like how that manifests in the user space. I much prefer scripting on a Mac and so if I have a bunch of batch processing of files to do, e.g., converting samples, I will always choose to do that on the Mac.

So I have Macs for various reasons not necessarily related to music, but, one of my Macs is a music machine on purpose for some of the other reasons that I like OS X. For one, midi is a first class citizen on a Mac. I love this utility and AFAIK, it only works because of the way that Macs allow multiple apps to capture a midi stream. This might have changed in recent versions of Windows though so don't quote me on that.

http://www.audiocr.com/

Related to sample processing, I also have Mainstage because it comes with Redmatica and it's the cheapest way that I know of to do automatic sampling. Again, see the point above where once that's done if I want to process those samples with a script, it's easier on the Mac.

My Windows machines, however, are far more powerful than my Macs and they cost less.

All that said, the main reason that I want the software for this list to be cross platform is that it's just a filter that means I don't have to think about which machine that I'm going to install it on. It isn't really a disadvantage to have both types of machines otherwise. I have plenty of software that is either Mac only or PC only. Not every plugin that I own needs to run on every machine.

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:12 pm

SIR - same system as Fab Filter.
OvertoneDSP? Keyfile. Their site is back up. Some people rate them, others don't.

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