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Romantique Tp wrote:Go here to check if you're entitled to a free grace period upgrade:
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There are workarounds for Push2. There is one basic app called Shove which gives you the acces to the grid, scales, etc. for approx. 12 USD. I, however, rewire Cubase with Reason, and on Reason I use Pusher2 app, which is like approx 70% - 80% of Ableton Push2 integration, then I can rewire midi to Cubase and use it in Cubase.

Cubase was hard to learn, but I could not go back to Ableton, it seems like a toy compared to Cubase. Cubase does not have clip launcher but it has Arranger Track and other very intersting stuff which you will be probably find out after few years use.

I guess Ableton 10 (also Lite version) will allow to rewire with any DAW (incl. Cubase) allowing the use of Push 2.
simmo75 wrote:
7blanche wrote:Amazing update, nearly perfect DAW. Clip launcher and Push support only things I miss from Ableton.
Interesting.... I’m tempted to do the $325 Cubase Pro crossgrade from Ableton but the only thing that’s stopping me is I love my Push 2.
I’m testing Live 10 and really don’t think it’s worth $299 for the upgrade, pretty underwhelming new features.

I haven’t used Cubase since it was on the Atari STFM but this 9.5 update and Ableton’s lack of creativity has got me tempted.

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This thread is soooooooo yesterday.
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Ableton Live 10 allows using the Push 2 when in ReWire slave mode, which is awesome. Build your beat in Ableton with the Push 2, then ReWire into another DAW (like Cubase) to do additional tracking and mixing. It's like Maschine, but way more powerful because you have Ableton underneath instead of Maschine's crappy software.

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Too bad you can't use Max Devices while Live is in Rewire mode...
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InLight-Tone wrote:Too bad you can't use Max Devices while Live is in Rewire mode...
I'm not an Live user, but just curious if this is still true now that Max is consolidated into 10?
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Adaptive Zoom (Lives had it forever) and the metronome are the things that tick my boxes. I actually used pads to tap the quantize value before. Now it's just for triplet and dotted flags. 10 pads now available for 1 shot midi macro execution!
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Are there any improvements to ASIO load?

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There have been reports about 64-bit summing reducing ASIO/CPU load. This might depend on the plugins used.

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Romantique Tp wrote:There have been reports about 64-bit summing reducing ASIO/CPU load. This might depend on the plugins used.
Where did you hear such a thing? The 64 bit processing only happens with a the steinberg plugins and a couple others and has nothing to do with ASIO load. And, it takes a tiny bit MORE CPU.
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So for those that have tried 9.5 and have other DAWs, how does Cubase compare now? To Logic X? To Pro Tools 12.8.2?

I feel these three all are pretty similar now in terms of features (maybe PT has less production-focused features, but that doesn't stop producers from using it). So which one to choose?

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SJ_Digriz wrote:
InLight-Tone wrote:Too bad you can't use Max Devices while Live is in Rewire mode...
I'm not an Live user, but just curious if this is still true now that Max is consolidated into 10?
Yes it's still true.

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5Lives wrote:So for those that have tried 9.5 and have other DAWs, how does Cubase compare now? To Logic X? To Pro Tools 12.8.2?

I feel these three all are pretty similar now in terms of features (maybe PT has less production-focused features, but that doesn't stop producers from using it). So which one to choose?
I've been doing video since a year back - and PT 12.8.x seems to have some problems in this field. Just read on their forum - and too many seem to consider PT bloat for video - comments from some veterans on forum.

And seems you can forget to just use H264 as MP4 or MOV right out of the box - you need to convert to some Avid format - as I understood it. Had some question on Avid forum on this - but had no reply at all. So dropped idea of getting PT.

I've got the feeling Avid are Mac-people and all development is on Mac - and then make Windows version just for the sake of it. So overall I think PT works better on Mac. It's more of cpu hog on windows - my own testing PT Express and PT 11.x trial. So not so optimized for Windows.

Not long ago looking at running a trial for PT - seems it was still PT 11.x - so you have a very different product to trial as well. This is horrible. There is PT First though which is free , but you cannot use 3rd party plugins at all - only what you buy at Avid Store.

But overall PT fills any other need, for me at least. And to stay current for $99 annually is very affordable as well.

Avid share on Nasdaq has been going towards $4.00 for a long time - but took off towards $6.00 the other day - so maybe they are starting to do better, don't know.

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simmo75 wrote:
7blanche wrote:Amazing update, nearly perfect DAW. Clip launcher and Push support only things I miss from Ableton.
Interesting.... I’m tempted to do the $325 Cubase Pro crossgrade from Ableton but the only thing that’s stopping me is I love my Push 2.
I’m testing Live 10 and really don’t think it’s worth $299 for the upgrade, pretty underwhelming new features.

I haven’t used Cubase since it was on the Atari STFM but this 9.5 update and Ableton’s lack of creativity has got me tempted.
$325 is tempting. I'm not gonna upgrade Live if it isn't below $100 at Christmas sale.

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It's as though Steinberg suddenly woke up, because 9.5 is really good. I'm actually kinda surprised.
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