Right, A-Weighting is calibrated to 0dBFS at 1kHz, but leq(a) is A-Weighting + 3dB, leq(B/C) use B/C-Weigting without offset. No matter if RMS Sum or AVG is used.Endolith wrote: I noticed the A curve is 3 dB up from the B and C curves at 1 kHz, though?
The spec I linked before has them all the same at 1 kHz (Table IV), same as Wikipedia's graph. Whether that should be 0 dB or -3 dB in your software, I don't know. Probably A should be dropped -3 dB to make it consistent with unweighted/B/C, and "RMS Averaged + 3dB" setting can be used to normalize any of them back up? I've always been confused about the conflicting definitions of dBFS/dBov.
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I mean that Leq(A) is 3 dB higher than the other filters:
but they should all be the same at 1 kHz:
but they should all be the same at 1 kHz:
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Well, reference of A-Weighting is 1kHz 0 dB, right.Endolith wrote:I mean that Leq(A) is 3 dB higher than the other filters:
But we shifted it by 3dB to be compatible with Nugen and Waves.
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I've since researched this more in-depth and found that it's incorrect: All the official standards agree that the rms of a full-scale sine wave is 0 dBFS.Endolith wrote:Probably A should be dropped -3 dB to make it consistent with unweighted/B/C
So Leq(B) and Leq(C) should have been changed to 0 dB instead of changing A to -3 dB.
There is another standard that you could use for this: The rms of a full-scale sine wave can also be measured as -3 dBov.TB-ProAudio wrote:Well, reference of A-Weighting is 1kHz 0 dB, right.
But we shifted it by 3dB to be compatible with Nugen and Waves.
dBFS and dBov are essentially the same concept, except with a 3 dB offset. So maybe instead of "Leq(A)+3", you could have a dBFS vs dBov switch? Then the ---/A/B/C are consistent, the 3 dB offset can be set to match levels shown in other software, and the units are unambiguous and follow the standards.
