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moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:16 pm

floyd wrote:
moonlite wrote:yeah. it would be absolutely superb if tracktion 2 would take this under its hood. maybe we should mail the author about this? ;)

I use it almost all the time in logic ..

so you use tracktion+ext?

do you use ext in every track in tracktion or just the ones you want step recording in?
No I don't own eXT. Many people like using it in conjunction with Tracktion, but for myself I want songwriting to be LESS complicated, not more complicated. So only one host at a time ;)

That said, eXT is getting close to the point where it might be good enough all on its own...

yeah, energyxt seems good also because I like modular systems (I love reaktor, I build everything from scratch in it)...

but how's moving and editing big, comples chunks of information in it? is it as easy as in a "real" sequencer? or IS ext actually a real sequencer in every aspect? .. still haven't had time to test it .. been cleaning all night with the missus =)

NicFit · Post by **NicFit** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:17 pm

moonlite, maybe I missed something but what exactly is the problem. EXT as suggested does exactly what your asking...have you even tried?
(Edit)...sorry just saw your last post ...let me know if you need any help, also come over to the EnergyXT forum here on KvR and check out Simons Commands guide to get familliar with key commands.

nF

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:25 pm

NicFit wrote:moonlite, maybe I missed something but what exactly is the problem. EXT as suggested does exactly what your asking...have you even tried?
(Edit)...sorry just saw your last post ...let me know if you need any help, also come over to the EnergyXT forum here on KvR and check out Simons Commands guide to get familliar with key commands.

nF

yeah, and actually I would like to know at least the names of as many hosts as possible (that support step record), since i'm trying out many different things presently .. since logic seems .. unconfortable, to me. and I've wasted a lot of time allready learning to use programs that don't have this to-me-essential step record function ..

logic, too, supports this step record, but it's not very handy in logic .. so i'd like many different suggestions about what to try.

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:31 pm

floyd wrote:i think the non-beta of vstrack (is that what its called?) is supposed to control vsti synths as well.

it's changed name to revisit, and it's found here at kvr .. take a look and tell me if it's this one you mean?

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:32 pm

moonlite wrote:(I love reaktor, I build everything from scratch in it)...

Do you have any uploaded examples of your Reaktor ensembles?

I'd be intrigued to see them.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:36 pm

Have you looked at renoise?

This is newly updated, I'm pretty sure..It completely lost me, so maybe it's exactly what you're looking for

Eriansa · Post by **Eriansa** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:38 pm

you could check SQ4²...http://www.sq4.be

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:40 pm

sickle666 wrote:
moonlite wrote:(I love reaktor, I build everything from scratch in it)...
Do you have any uploaded examples of your Reaktor ensembles?

I'd be intrigued to see them.

no, I haven't got any on the web right now, and they're actually not that complicated either, and are real messy, too, as I'm a pretty messy person ;))

I'm not very good at using reaktor, but I still love it ,) .. all i've done is some siple synths as an basic fm synth with some unusual mappings, a bassline which is in essence really basic but gives me better control over every envelope and parameter .. and a kickdrum machine with the same features ..

oh, and a really simple and basic delay with variable delay time ..

the sort of things even a n00b could construct in a hour of two ya know =) ..

.. but still, it lets the imagination fly .. and it's been a great learning tool about sound synthesis etc..

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:43 pm

moonlite wrote:
sickle666 wrote:
moonlite wrote:(I love reaktor, I build everything from scratch in it)...

no, I haven't got any on the web right now, and they're actually not that complicated either,
the sort of things even a n00b could construct in a hour of two ya know =)

oh.

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:51 pm

sickle666 wrote:Have you looed at renoise?

This is newly updated, I'm pretty sure..It completely lost me, so maybe it's exactly what you're looking for :P

oh, the new version has came out :o I have to get that, too.. been wating for it for a while .. (and even put myself on their mailing list. and still they didn't notify me of the new version, after all, those bastards! ;))

I actually have made half a track with renoise, too. but the old version just seemed too much work, compared to sequencers, in making big (and detailed) changes in the song structure.

trackers come pretty naturally to me, since I grew up with them. respectively, sequencers represent banging my head to the wall 90% of the time trying to learn something new in a seq. I just don't seem level with sequencer designers in how things sould work =( ..

STILL i find seqs handyer for most of the work on a track

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:53 pm

sickle666 wrote:
moonlite wrote:
sickle666 wrote:
moonlite wrote:(I love reaktor, I build everything from scratch in it)...

no, I haven't got any on the web right now, and they're actually not that complicated either,
the sort of things even a n00b could construct in a hour of two ya know =)
oh.

... but if you're still really interrested of some reason, I could email you something, if you want? =)

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:02 am

moonlite wrote:
sickle666 wrote:
moonlite wrote:
sickle666 wrote:
moonlite wrote:(I love reaktor, I build everything from scratch in it)...

no, I haven't got any on the web right now, and they're actually not that complicated either,
the sort of things even a n00b could construct in a hour of two ya know =)
oh.
... but if you're still really interrested of some reason, I could email you something, if you want? =)

Nah, it's ok..I mostly use James Walker-Hall's, ew's, Rick Scott's, programchild's, deiter zobel's, Martin Brinkman's & a few of the other lunatics from the User Library..my bases are covered in Reaktor

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:02 am

Eriansa wrote:you could check SQ4²...http://www.sq4.be

uh, seems inerresting but the screenshot seems really confusing..

does sq4^2 really incorporate a "step recording" function? and not a "step sequencer" like fl and orion etc etc? these two methods don't have much in common, and this is extremely important to me, since I've wasted too much time allready learning how to use software that ends up totally useless to me.

smp · Post by **smp** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:57 am

As has been mentioned, FL Studio supports step recording in the piano roll. In fact, it might even support it in the step sequencer component as well, but I'm not so sure about this one.

I've never really used it myself (just once when trying it out) so I have no opinion on whether or not it is a good implementation. I prefer to draw in my semi-quavers etc on the piano roll using the mouse.

-s

meister eder · Post by **meister eder** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:04 am

moonlite wrote:currently I use logic, which supports it, but it's not very handy there.

I'd be interested to hear what exactly you find not so handy about Logic's step recording.
You do know about the sustain pedal and the according key-commands ét all, do you?

KVR Audio

which hosts support step record/step edit/step entry/etc ..?

how to you record you'r midi or vst etc tracks?