I currently use Live 9, just upgraded to suite to take advantage of the 'free' 10 update. Prior to that, I used Studio One 3 Pro for about a year, prior to that Reaper.
The most important question you have to ask is 'what kind of music will I be making' as I found S1 better suited to live recording, mixing and mastering, while Live I found much better suited towards pure electronic music (samples and VST instruments). These days, I make pure electronic music so S1 just collects dust. Live has the best UI of any DAW in my opinion.
Don't get me started on Reaper - cheap and powerful yes, but the UI is a mess which is not surprising given they started as the developers of WinAmp.
Update Live 6 to 9/10 or switch to Studio One?
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Ive heard the latest trends in making music say that having Cubase makes you very cool especialy with the ladies. Studio One 3 was last years fashion and all the coolest people were using Ableton live 10 years ago. But if you are looking to the future, id advice getting upgrade to ableton live 10 because ive heard its going to be fashionable in 2019. 
On the realistic side If you havent made any music for a while, still you will hardly gonna make music even with the latest version or whenever daw
Word of advice, you like Ableton? make music with whatever version you have first, no need to waste your money. If you dont, version 10 is still gonna Ableton then try Studio One.
On the realistic side If you havent made any music for a while, still you will hardly gonna make music even with the latest version or whenever daw
Word of advice, you like Ableton? make music with whatever version you have first, no need to waste your money. If you dont, version 10 is still gonna Ableton then try Studio One.
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I was in a similar spot a year ago, having not written any music for ...18 years, because of life: work, wife, kids, etc. In the 90's I used to work in ProTracker on Amiga and then briefly on FastTracker on PC. So the modern world of DAWs, incl. MIDI, VSTs, automation, etc. was a "shock" for me.
Anyway, I started by buying Live 9 Suite, because I though the Session View paradigm of working - i.e. creating bunch of self-looping ideas, then mixing & matching them on a timeline - seemed like an ideal workflow for me and my music (psychedelic goa trance & its derivatives). And it was! But I quickly got irritated with small things: how zooming works, how I can't edit several clips at once, that there's no mixer in arrangement view, that MaxForLive feels clunky, that it wasn't supporting high-DPI screens properly, that I couldn't see what's in the clips in Session View, etc. Small things adding up to bigger frustration.
So, I bought Bitwig which addressed all of the above and has given a lot of things on top of it: VST3 support and plugin sandboxing, hybrid tracks for convenient off-line processing, Modulators that are maybe not as deep as M4L but are much more fun, inviting and creative to use, dedicated touch interface for my Surface Pro 4, etc. With Live, using Session and Arrangement somehow felt like two different, separate worlds, whereas in Bitwig it's as if I was looking at the same information through a slightly different window: it's that consistency and coherency that got me hooked.
BTW, I also got myself Studio One 3 (and Reason 10 recently...) and while I love how it looks and I can see it's incredibly powerful, I've not really used it yet properly. I don't think you'd be making a *mistake* by switching to it, it's just a different mindset / paradigm because there's no Session View (Scratch Pads are not the same, although can be used as an approximation) so you have to "think" more linearly.
To sum it up - think of your workflow how you want it to be & choose a tool that supports it best. If you decide to stay with Live, give Bitwig a go as well.
Anyway, I started by buying Live 9 Suite, because I though the Session View paradigm of working - i.e. creating bunch of self-looping ideas, then mixing & matching them on a timeline - seemed like an ideal workflow for me and my music (psychedelic goa trance & its derivatives). And it was! But I quickly got irritated with small things: how zooming works, how I can't edit several clips at once, that there's no mixer in arrangement view, that MaxForLive feels clunky, that it wasn't supporting high-DPI screens properly, that I couldn't see what's in the clips in Session View, etc. Small things adding up to bigger frustration.
So, I bought Bitwig which addressed all of the above and has given a lot of things on top of it: VST3 support and plugin sandboxing, hybrid tracks for convenient off-line processing, Modulators that are maybe not as deep as M4L but are much more fun, inviting and creative to use, dedicated touch interface for my Surface Pro 4, etc. With Live, using Session and Arrangement somehow felt like two different, separate worlds, whereas in Bitwig it's as if I was looking at the same information through a slightly different window: it's that consistency and coherency that got me hooked.
BTW, I also got myself Studio One 3 (and Reason 10 recently...) and while I love how it looks and I can see it's incredibly powerful, I've not really used it yet properly. I don't think you'd be making a *mistake* by switching to it, it's just a different mindset / paradigm because there's no Session View (Scratch Pads are not the same, although can be used as an approximation) so you have to "think" more linearly.
To sum it up - think of your workflow how you want it to be & choose a tool that supports it best. If you decide to stay with Live, give Bitwig a go as well.