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HcDoom wrote:1) updated filters
The filters are just fine. Absynth was never intended as some kind of analog emulation.
2) less aliasing
Why? It sounds great as it is.
3) more osc options
Even more? Are you sure you already got all out of it what's in there? I doubt it.
4) better granular synthesis
"Better" in what way? It sounds great, if you know what you're doing, and it covers a wide range.
5) bigger and better GUI (especially for envelopes)
People need to learn that 4K displays must be MUCH bigger than normal HD...
6) updated effects
You gotta be kidding, right? Absynth has some of the best and most innovative effects that have ever been in a synth. Maybe learn how to use them?

Absynth has always been different - this was and still is its strength. Again, what most people asking for "improvements" really seem to want, is a different synth - of which there are plenty already.
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Absynth when released 2002 was a pioneer and a massive beast for ambient, atmospheric & soundscape oriented sounds. Probably the best and only synth for this type of sounds at that specific date. That’s 15 years ago. In the software realm that's a very long time ago, therefore making it a dinosaur. Today there are so many other powerfull synths excelling at this, and let’s be honest here most of them are even surpassing it by far in term of features, quality and workflow. And I think NI knows that very well and don’t see the purpose of putting huge amount of time, resource and money into a synth that has way too many competitors and won’t be able to be no.1 king again. So they rather put their effort somewhere else. Musicians and artists wise, as lot of us get pretty emotional with the synths we own and use, it doesn’t seem to make sense. We love it, we want it! But business wise if you put yourself into the chair of the CEO, it’s totally valid and even clever I think.

Time to move on, I seriously doubt we’ll see it rise from the ashes.
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dreamkeeper wrote:
5) bigger and better GUI (especially for envelopes)
People need to learn that 4K displays must be MUCH bigger than normal HD...
<cough> Im using a 15" 4K screen.
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whyterabbyt wrote:
dreamkeeper wrote:
5) bigger and better GUI (especially for envelopes)
People need to learn that 4K displays must be MUCH bigger than normal HD...
<cough> Im using a 15" 4K screen.
oops! :D
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Even though I could use a bigger GUI in regard to Absynth, nothing I own sounds like it. It is truly one of those few unique synths. I'd use it more if it was easier to work with but the GUI puts me off. I use it mostly for presets because I can't be bothered with trying to program it. It's not nearly as bad as something like Korg M1 or Wavestation, but with so many synths with decent size GUIs, why should I struggle with something?

If they did nothing else but make the GUI bigger, Absynth would be one of my most used synths for doing ambient music.

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Kalamata Kid wrote:
kobal wrote:maybe they will make a kontakt on stereoid insteed of absynth, something like falcon with kontakt sampler, it could easily replace absynth , make more sense imo

Integrate Absynth into Kontakt?

I was thinking more to integrating Absynth into Reaktor.

If done well either is fine with me.

In any case I believe Kontakt 6 will be more like Falcon.The reason is that the plan was to release Kontakt with Komplete 11 but a rethink about Falcon delayed the release till K12.
no not integrating absynth into kontakt, just adding all absynth synthesis type and more with up to date algoryhtms to make kontakt more modular, similar to falcon, it wouldn t be like absynth, but it would replace absynth in term of synthesis with a better sound
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dreamkeeper wrote: Absynth has always been different - this was and still is its strength. Again, what most people asking for "improvements" really seem to want, is a different synth - of which there are plenty already.
Your answers and trying to be smart just gave me an insight of your Absynth knowledge, that means, you are either deaf when you dont hear aliasing in filters and oscs, etc...or you are trolling. Why wouldnt I want an high quality analog filter on one osc combined with some comb digital filter on other two??? If you try something like that with current Absynth filters, you will fail miserably. Also, I didnt said Absynth has bad effects, I just want them to update algos a bit for more pleasant sound and add additional ones. And if you think GUI is great, ok, I think its not and I though the same 15 years ago when I first bought it, I learned to live with it, but now its just a strain on brain and it can definitely be updated/upgraded. This synth would excel with better GUI. Regarding granular synthesis, just take any newer granular synth and compare it to Absynth, you cant, absynth fails here, unfortunately. So, please, dont write crap.
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HcDoom wrote:
dreamkeeper wrote: Absynth has always been different - this was and still is its strength. Again, what most people asking for "improvements" really seem to want, is a different synth - of which there are plenty already.
Your answers and trying to be smart just gave me an insight of your Absynth knowledge, that means, you are either deaf when you dont hear aliasing in filters and oscs, etc...or you are trolling. Why wouldnt I want an high quality analog filter on one osc combined with some comb digital filter on other two??? If you try something like that with current Absynth filters, you will fail miserably. Also, I didnt said Absynth has bad effects, I just want them to update algos a bit for more pleasant sound and add additional ones. And if you think GUI is great, ok, I think its not and I though the same 15 years ago when I first bought it, I learned to live with it, but now its just a strain on brain and it can definitely be updated/upgraded. This synth would excel with better GUI. So, please, dont write crap.
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Yeah, whatever... :roll:
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Would love to see Absynth with updated osc's and filters. I still use it and it still sounds great, but let's take it to the next level.

The interface can stay as-is, if certain people here didn't have interface issues to complain about, they probably wouldn't know what to do with themselves. :D
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Hi

the issue of GUI sizing comes up so often that you might imagine that this is one of the first things a developer places on his/her list of essential design inclusions.

I say inclusions rather than features - a feature suggests something special or unique: being able to SEE the damned thing seems a necessity IMO!

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egbert101 wrote:
JerGoertz wrote: The interface can stay as-is, if certain people here didn't have interface issues to complain about, they probably wouldn't know what to do with themselves. :D
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dreamkeeper wrote:
Absynth has always been different - this was and still is its strength. Again, what most people asking for "improvements" really seem to want, is a different synth - of which there are plenty already.
You are right... I want a different synth...

One that does not immediately sound like a decade+ old softsynth, has crap filters, aliases too much, and has a GUI that is really hard to use.

I would like to have the Absynth feature set in a modern GUI, and with a more current standard for sound quality.

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