I think it would be better to download everything from your account as separate installers and also take a screenshot of all the serials. If you're not planning to switch computers any time soon, then you could also generate an offline activation file. At least that's what I did.GreyLion wrote: Anybody got any knowledge about how to bundle that all up? Would downloading everything from the CCC take care of that? Intention is to be kinda like the archive that many of us created with Alchemy. Assuming that Cake keeps their promise about maintaining the Authorization servers running, of course...
Gibson axes Cakewalk /Sonar
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- KVRAF
- 2648 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
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- KVRAF
- 3386 posts since 21 May, 2004 from Deep in the Heartlessness of Texas
Great idea, robotmonkey! If I remember correctly, Cake tends to hide the non-CCC install packages a bit. I'll go rooting around for that page. (EDIT: Oops. They're just a click-thoughaway from the list in the My Products page. Easy.) I'm planning to ride my current rig into the ground. I didn't know that you can generate an offline activation file, though. Time for some research... Thanks! 
Incidentally, from a quick look, it seems that the Adaptive Limiter is going to work in Reaper, even though it says that's it's not meant to. Haven't tested it yet, really. And I have the LP EQ and Multiband compressor and well as the CA2A, and they load without problem. Rapture, Dimension, and Z3TA+2 should be fine, though I never use them.
It would be nice if they'd release the ProChannel plugs, though I'm not holding my breath.
Incidentally, from a quick look, it seems that the Adaptive Limiter is going to work in Reaper, even though it says that's it's not meant to. Haven't tested it yet, really. And I have the LP EQ and Multiband compressor and well as the CA2A, and they load without problem. Rapture, Dimension, and Z3TA+2 should be fine, though I never use them.
It would be nice if they'd release the ProChannel plugs, though I'm not holding my breath.
- KVRian
- 667 posts since 27 Jul, 2010
Hey guys!!!
Music Connection is totally giving away a copy of SONAR Platinum professional this week!:
http://www.musicconnection.com/friday-freebie-page/
...guess they didn't get the memo?
Good luck to the winner, in trying to actually download and activate it...
Music Connection is totally giving away a copy of SONAR Platinum professional this week!:
http://www.musicconnection.com/friday-freebie-page/
...guess they didn't get the memo?
Good luck to the winner, in trying to actually download and activate it...
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- KVRAF
- 2270 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
Interesting, my experience exactly from the music software industry at that time. We should create a new thread where industry secrets are revealed.gnu23 wrote:I was in a "dot-com" era shop in the late nineties/early aughts that went through the boom/bust cycle. The "behind the scenes" poster echoes a lot of what I experienced.jsp1979 wrote:Supposedly a former Cakewalk employee giving some "behind the scenes" info on what happened.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cakewalk/comme ... h=2dc889b3
It's only in retrospect that the tipping point into the bust phase can be seen clearly. In my case, it was less than a handful of little "tells" that, individually, seemed no more than just a decision maker's bad day at the office. The cumulative effect, though, was staggering. That seems to be the case for the Sonar team.
One thing to keep in mind is that just about everybody looses money in this business, so the ones who run most of these companies do it with their hearts.
Gibson might be an exception though, and also Creative. I guess many of you recall that Creative bought E-MU, one of the finest companies in the industry and with a super collection of great and laidback people. Then it just died out. That said, I believe Creative actually made an effort to use the E-MU stuff and not just wrote it off.
Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:15 pm Passing Bye wrote:
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
"look at SparkySpark's post 4 posts up, let that sink in for a moment"
Go MuLab!
- KVRAF
- 4801 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from Warszawa, Poland
Actually, it is possible at the moment.progtronic wrote:Good luck to the winner, in trying to actually download and activate it...
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
I could not imagine to start up some serious projects in a DAW I knew was on it's way to the waste bin. I guess as long as you isolate your computer and avoid any updates what so ever, you could in theory have it running for a long time, but no support will be available.Zombie Queen wrote:Actually, it is possible at the moment.progtronic wrote:Good luck to the winner, in trying to actually download and activate it...
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- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
Why would you need support on a DAW you know inside and out. I still run Cubase VST/32 to an old PC (actually its in a closet right now). This is the most overblown part of this discussion.ATN69 wrote:I could not imagine to start up some serious projects in a DAW I knew was on it's way to the waste bin. I guess as long as you isolate your computer and avoid any updates what so ever, you could in theory have it running for a long time, but no support will be available.Zombie Queen wrote:Actually, it is possible at the moment.progtronic wrote:Good luck to the winner, in trying to actually download and activate it...
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
Of course you don't need support as long as it still run wellSJ_Digriz wrote:Why would you need support on a DAW you know inside and out. I still run Cubase VST/32 to an old PC (actually its in a closet right now). This is the most overblown part of this discussion.ATN69 wrote:I could not imagine to start up some serious projects in a DAW I knew was on it's way to the waste bin. I guess as long as you isolate your computer and avoid any updates what so ever, you could in theory have it running for a long time, but no support will be available.Zombie Queen wrote:Actually, it is possible at the moment.progtronic wrote:Good luck to the winner, in trying to actually download and activate it...
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- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
BS, you need support when the environments are changing, or there is a serious bug that is exposed by the environment change. If you’ve been using software on a system for a long period of time, you don’t need technical support anymore, you just need community support. Community support isn’t going anywhere.ATN69 wrote:Of course you don't need support as long as it still run wellSJ_Digriz wrote:Why would you need support on a DAW you know inside and out. I still run Cubase VST/32 to an old PC (actually its in a closet right now). This is the most overblown part of this discussion.ATN69 wrote:I could not imagine to start up some serious projects in a DAW I knew was on it's way to the waste bin. I guess as long as you isolate your computer and avoid any updates what so ever, you could in theory have it running for a long time, but no support will be available.Zombie Queen wrote:Actually, it is possible at the moment.progtronic wrote:Good luck to the winner, in trying to actually download and activate it.....as in your case. It is when/if it doesn't run well you might need the support.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
So you are saying that just because everything works good for you it will also work perfectly for everyone else?BS, you need support when the environments are changing, or there is a serious bug that is exposed by the environment change. If you’ve been using software on a system for a long period of time, you don’t need technical support anymore, you just need community support. Community support isn’t going anywhere.
I am an acoustic engineer by profession and I been working hard to keep old acoustic test systems from Bruel&Kjaer alive. These are test systems from early 90's. We still have systems running that was written for Windows 3.11 and with patches upgraded to Windows 95. All though these systems have been working for long periods of times (years even) we also encountered software crashes and bugs. And it happened during normal usage and without environment change. We also had to repair the old computers that these systems are running on by searching old parts. These computers are old Pentium one computers. The old software doesn't run on modern and fast computers. It's hard to find parts.
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10
- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
And you manage to do all that on unsupported software and systems ...ATN69 wrote:So you are saying that just because everything works good for you it will also work perfectly for everyone else?BS, you need support when the environments are changing, or there is a serious bug that is exposed by the environment change. If you’ve been using software on a system for a long period of time, you don’t need technical support anymore, you just need community support. Community support isn’t going anywhere.![]()
I am an acoustic engineer by profession and I been working hard to keep old acoustic test systems from Bruel&Kjaer alive. These are test systems from early 90's. We still have systems running that was written for Windows 3.11 and with patches upgraded to Windows 95. All though these systems have been working for long periods of times (years even) we also encountered software crashes and bugs. And it happened during normal usage and without environment change. We also had to repair the old computers that these systems are running on by searching old parts. These computers are old Pentium one computers. The old software doesn't run on modern and fast computers. It's hard to find parts.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
Not really because Bruel&Kjaer who is the software and hardware maker it very much alive and kicking.SJ_Digriz wrote:And you manage to do all that on unsupported software and systems ...ATN69 wrote:So you are saying that just because everything works good for you it will also work perfectly for everyone else?BS, you need support when the environments are changing, or there is a serious bug that is exposed by the environment change. If you’ve been using software on a system for a long period of time, you don’t need technical support anymore, you just need community support. Community support isn’t going anywhere.![]()
I am an acoustic engineer by profession and I been working hard to keep old acoustic test systems from Bruel&Kjaer alive. These are test systems from early 90's. We still have systems running that was written for Windows 3.11 and with patches upgraded to Windows 95. All though these systems have been working for long periods of times (years even) we also encountered software crashes and bugs. And it happened during normal usage and without environment change. We also had to repair the old computers that these systems are running on by searching old parts. These computers are old Pentium one computers. The old software doesn't run on modern and fast computers. It's hard to find parts.
https://www.bksv.com/en/
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10
- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
Peace dude, you are half making my point ... I’m just saying that all the gloom and doom over support is over blown. If you want it to work for a long time, it will.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
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