Samplitude Pro X3 Suite sale $149.00 until Dec 20th

[xbitz]

Aah, those kids at Image-Line don't know how to design a mature DAW.

FL is not a DAW this is why it knows things like "Randomize Note Lenghts"

[Kraznet]

Aah, those kids at Image-Line don't know how to design a mature DAW.

FL is not a DAW this is why it knows things like "Randomize Note Lenghts"

I can't say I've ever had a need to randomise note lengths. What would be a reason for using this? I'm interested.

[elassi]

FL is not a DAW this is why it knows things like "Randomize Note Lenghts"

Heck, also the "Formula Controller" implemented in the early Fruity Loops was something that rather belongs to a math lesson for school kids than being established in a DAW for serious adults.

[elassi]

I can't say I've ever had a need to randomise note lengths. What would be a reason for using this? I'm interested.

They say that groove consists of three parts: timing, velocity and note length.

If you're not able to perform (deliver) one or all of this ingredients by 'hand' you need tools to help you. In addition, you may not be able to determine rules to achieve a pleasant result, so you have to rely on 'randomization'.

[Skorpius]

I can't say I've ever had a need to randomise note lengths. What would be a reason for using this? I'm interested.

I would need such a function for advanced midi drum editing. Imagine you have a line of Hi-Hat beats of the same note. Let's say they all have a velocity of 85 and a length of 40 (the latter is often the case with commercial midi libraries). Plus, they are all quantized to 16th notes. This will sound extremely static and unnatural. To make the beats more natural, you have a couple of possibilities:

- You can use "Velocity Dynamics" to assign individual velocities to the Hi-Hat notes.
- You can shift their individual positions (i. e. make them swing) by using the Humanize or Extended Quantizing functions.

After these steps, the Hi-Hat will already sound way more lively and naturally.

Nevertheless, all notes will still have a length of 40. And this is exactly where I'm missing the randomizing function.

In real drum playing, no beat of a Hi-Hat (or Bass Drum, Snare, Tom, Cymbal) has exactly the same length as the previous or the next note. Each note length is individual. To achieve a similar level of naturalness, I have to edit each Hi-Hat note manually - which is a hell of lot of work, especially with longer tracks.

While some people seem to believe that the lengths of midi drum notes don't really matter, my years of experience with midi drum editing have proven the opposite. And while a randomizing function may not be necessary for EDM or similar music, it would be extremely helpful for creating drum beats that sound like naturally played drums.

Thus, a "sister function" to "Velocity Dynamics" (namely "Length Dynamics") would make Samplitude the greatest of all DAWs for me.

If you have a chance to pass this on to a Samplitude developer, I would be more than grateful.

[xphen0m]

Is Samplitude ProX3 Suite 64 bit or 32 bit?

[Johnny Blade]

Both.

[elassi]

I can't say I've ever had a need to randomise note lengths. What would be a reason for using this? I'm interested.

I would need such a function for advanced midi drum editing. Imagine you have a line of Hi-Hat beats of the same note. Let's say they all have a velocity of 85 and a length of 40 (the latter is often the case with commercial midi libraries). Plus, they are all quantized to 16th notes. This will sound extremely static and unnatural. To make the beats more natural, you have a couple of possibilities:

- You can use "Velocity Dynamics" to assign individual velocities to the Hi-Hat notes.
- You can shift their individual positions (i. e. make them swing) by using the Humanize or Extended Quantizing functions.

After these steps, the Hi-Hat will already sound way more lively and naturally.

Nevertheless, all notes will still have a length of 40. And this is exactly where I'm missing the randomizing function.

In real drum playing, no beat of a Hi-Hat (or Bass Drum, Snare, Tom, Cymbal) has exactly the same length as the previous or the next note. Each note length is individual. To achieve a similar level of naturalness, I have to edit each Hi-Hat note manually - which is a hell of lot of work, especially with longer tracks.

While some people seem to believe that the lengths of midi drum notes don't really matter, my years of experience with midi drum editing have proven the opposite. And while a randomizing function may not be necessary for EDM or similar music, it would be extremely helpful for creating drum beats that sound like naturally played drums.

Thus, a "sister function" to "Velocity Dynamics" (namely "Length Dynamics") would make Samplitude the greatest of all DAWs for me.

If you have a chance to pass this on to a Samplitude developer, I would be more than grateful.

[flugel45]

[
Unfortunately, this is not a proof for me at all. While I do believe that new users can download and install everything without being asked for a previous version, it may well be that existing users who jump on this deal are unlucky - in that their previous version, once Pro X3 is installed, is taken as a basis for the Pro X 3 upgrade..

I don't have a "previous version" of X3 -- only Magix Home Studio, and I received the email offer.

Others have already shown that the deal includes the full packages... To me that's more than enough proof.

Also, given that it's still technically Black Friday -- added to Cakewalk's announcement, it makes perfect sense that Magix did this.

[Johnny Blade]

-- added to Cakewalk's announcement, it makes perfect sense that Magix did this.

[budweiser]

I can't say I've ever had a need to randomise note lengths. What would be a reason for using this? I'm interested.

I would need such a function for advanced midi drum editing. Imagine you have a line of Hi-Hat beats of the same note. Let's say they all have a velocity of 85 and a length of 40 (the latter is often the case with commercial midi libraries). Plus, they are all quantized to 16th notes. This will sound extremely static and unnatural. To make the beats more natural, you have a couple of possibilities:

- You can use "Velocity Dynamics" to assign individual velocities to the Hi-Hat notes.
- You can shift their individual positions (i. e. make them swing) by using the Humanize or Extended Quantizing functions.

After these steps, the Hi-Hat will already sound way more lively and naturally.

Nevertheless, all notes will still have a length of 40. And this is exactly where I'm missing the randomizing function.

In real drum playing, no beat of a Hi-Hat (or Bass Drum, Snare, Tom, Cymbal) has exactly the same length as the previous or the next note. Each note length is individual. To achieve a similar level of naturalness, I have to edit each Hi-Hat note manually - which is a hell of lot of work, especially with longer tracks.

While some people seem to believe that the lengths of midi drum notes don't really matter, my years of experience with midi drum editing have proven the opposite. And while a randomizing function may not be necessary for EDM or similar music, it would be extremely helpful for creating drum beats that sound like naturally played drums.

Thus, a "sister function" to "Velocity Dynamics" (namely "Length Dynamics") would make Samplitude the greatest of all DAWs for me.

If you have a chance to pass this on to a Samplitude developer, I would be more than grateful.

Yeah if your sound is one shot (and it's frequently the case with drum sounds), changing the lengh of the note will change nada to the sound. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[yellowmix]

Nevertheless, all notes will still have a length of 40. And this is exactly where I'm missing the randomizing function.

In real drum playing, no beat of a Hi-Hat (or Bass Drum, Snare, Tom, Cymbal) has exactly the same length as the previous or the next note. Each note length is individual. To achieve a similar level of naturalness, I have to edit each Hi-Hat note manually - which is a hell of lot of work, especially with longer tracks.

What drum software are you using? Many drum instruments disregard MIDI note off and require an explicit choke.

[xphen0m]

Ok, so those of you installed it and got it working: Do you own ANY other Magix software? I own NO OTHER software from them, and I want to make as sure as possible before I spend my hard earned $149 that this will work.

[Skorpius]

Thanks for your valuable contribution to the topic.

[Skorpius]

Yeah if your sound is one shot (and it's frequently the case with drum sounds), changing the lengh of the note will change nada to the sound. Correct me if i'm wrong.

You are wrong. You can let the "shot" decay till the very end, or you can shorten it. Depending on the drum library, this does make a big difference - even without explicit chokes.