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Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:58 pm

hbrookes wrote:
layzer wrote:^^^^^^oooooooooooooo kay. now back to the OPs request.
here is a synth1 toto africa brass patch i programmed, it is not
dead on identical. but gets the overall sound, i think.
hope it works for you

demo:
https://app.box.com/s/6ofceu1o5upvguhhsqsfxw0o1umpsv56

the synth1 fxp patch:
https://app.box.com/s/04k0fwuv7u19yx6qwbveo8lsz73rs37a
Thank You Layzer, Very close I will say. I can use this for a place holder and tweak after its recorded.
Best Harry

Just out of curiosity.

You ignored my audio on page 1, because it wasn't Synth1, or because it was so far from the target sound ?

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:42 pm

I forgot to mention if you're looking for what in my opinion are the best banks for Synth 1 then you need to download Ann Nolwenn's banks:

http://ann.sounds.free.fr/

Her patch "Dark Choir" gets my vote for best Synth 1 patch ever. It almost sounds sampled in a certain range. She really shows what Synth 1 can do.....in the right hands.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:49 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Anyone who tries to sell Synth 1 patches is a scumball and anyone who pays for Synth 1 patches is an idiot.

Why?

If someone takes time to make a good bank that ppl are prepared to pay for, i dont see the problem. It doesnt matter if the synth is free or commercial. The devs get no money from soundbanks anyway (unless they are commisioned).

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:53 pm

I don't see the issue either, if the dev is ok with it. And why shouldn't he be ok with it? It's a deal between people offering soundware, and people who are willing to pay for said soundware. Noone gets ripped off really.

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:07 pm

I'm with Teksonik on this one: selling patches for freeware is a dick move.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:09 pm

Russell Grand wrote:I'm with Teksonik on this one: selling patches for freeware is a dick move.

And some people say that selling patches at all for any synth is wrong and they should all be given away for free.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:12 pm

Russell Grand wrote:I'm with Teksonik on this one: selling patches for freeware is a dick move.

But why? Elaborate please.

Note also that it's pretty likely that some sound designers have been paid to create sounds for certain freeware synths from commercial companies. Simply because the freeware is also there to fuel sales for the commercial plugins.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:20 pm

AnX wrote:
Teksonik wrote:
Anyone who tries to sell Synth 1 patches is a scumball and anyone who pays for Synth 1 patches is an idiot.

Why?

If someone takes time to make a good bank that ppl are prepared to pay for, i dont see the problem. It doesnt matter if the synth is free or commercial. The devs get no money from soundbanks anyway (unless they are commisioned).

If you have to ask why then you won't understand the answer. It's all about morals. You have to have them to understand.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:28 pm

chk071 wrote:
Russell Grand wrote:I'm with Teksonik on this one: selling patches for freeware is a dick move.
But why? Elaborate please.

I'll explain one more time. If the developer does not make any money from their freeware...a gift to the community...then no one who creates patches for that synth should make money either. It's plain and simply morally wrong and like I said can not be debated if one actually has morals.

If someone wants to pay a sound designer to create patches for a free synth then that's on him or her.

Ichiro has never once even asked for donations.

Try to understand the spirit of community, sharing, and giving. It was much more prevalent here in the early days of VSTi's. Sadly that spirit has left KVR.

So in that spirit I will leave this thread.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:28 pm

Talking about morals, let me quote from an advert for u-he's Zebralette:

Why are we advertising freeware? Our devilish plan is to get you hooked on Zebralette first, then sell you Zebra 2.

So, ya, freeware is more than often not a gift, but, either a teaser for payware, or the person who developed it didn't think that he should charge for it, or used it as a training excercise for future possibly commercial products.

Also, again, there is nothing morally objectionable about a buyer-seller relationship, in which both sides can decide whether the product is worth buying/selling or not.

And, by the way, there's really no reason to reply for Russell Grand. I'm sure he can speak for himself.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:33 pm

Teksonik wrote:
AnX wrote:
Teksonik wrote:
Anyone who tries to sell Synth 1 patches is a scumball and anyone who pays for Synth 1 patches is an idiot.

Why?

If someone takes time to make a good bank that ppl are prepared to pay for, i dont see the problem. It doesnt matter if the synth is free or commercial. The devs get no money from soundbanks anyway (unless they are commisioned).
If you have to ask why then you won't understand the answer. It's all about morals. You have to have them to understand.

I see. I guess by your say so i have no morals then (but i also think anyone who buys presets is an idiot anyway...)

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:35 pm

Teksonik wrote:
chk071 wrote:
Russell Grand wrote:I'm with Teksonik on this one: selling patches for freeware is a dick move.
But why? Elaborate please.
I'll explain one more time. If the developer does not make any money from their freeware...a gift to the community...then no one who creates patches for that synth should make money either.

I dont recall ever seeing any dev of freeware saying this....

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:50 pm

Wow...Just wow.

News flash people. There are TONS of paid software built on foundations of freeware or open source software. In fact, we wouldn't have half the stuff we pay for without it.

Un-freaking-believable the amount of sanctimonious horseshit that comes out of some people's mouths in this place.

SMFH

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:54 pm

It really does seem a certain someone just wants to find fault with anything Wagtunes says. Instead of just talking about points, it becomes personal, even questioning other user's morality. These are frivolous preset banks for a free synth, not food in a starving nation. Please, get a grip.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:05 pm

hbrookes wrote:Hello All,
I am not a keyboard player but have a small studio and we are trying to re-do Africa by Toto. I found Synth1 which is a great start but I dont program and would like a starting point for the Brass type intro sounds?
I found 25,000 sounds but I will be here for days!...lol

Thanks for any help...Harry

Not that this will be quick enough for your current project, but if you want to dig in, later, here are some tutorials by a guy I'm subscribed to:

Synth1 need Toto Africa sounds!