One Synth Challenge #106: FB-3100/3200/3300 by Full Bucket Music (Jasinski Wins!)

[H-man]

Wowsa, I stand corrected!
Works also in MuLab, tested it with 3100. In modular view you can connect any output to the input. Just don't overlook the dial in the lower right hand corner "EX.INPUT"!
It runs through the resonators and AMP MOD chain (including resonator, as toon mentioned). This is very surprising to me and a new precedence. COOL! Especially with the AMP modulation that could invite some crazy stuff! ...I really sense dubstep hell coming, most certainly!

Yeah, I probably should test out stuff before talking out of my #ss. ...apologies.

Wow, works also with IL's Mini Host, thx for the extra digging folks. Could not find a way to do this natively in Studio One tho

Normally I might avoid these type of shenanigans however a bank of resonators could be interesting.

Mini host has Mac and PC versions too if I am not mistaken.

[TheNeverScene]

Got a start on a funky little biscuit. I had to save an Init patch with switches in the on position because I kept sitting there turning knobs and fishing through mods only to realize nothing was happening because I hadn't flipped the switches! Pretty deep synth and not really sure what all the mod parameters and triggers do.

I read the LAG can create portamento....any tips?

9 instances so far and just a little verb and eq on the master.

https://soundcloud.com/the-never-scene/ ... ve/s-ubmIN

[generaldiomedes]

loading Minihost Modular as an instrument plugin and FB-3100 inside that, and it takes in audio mighty fine now. The level of the external signal is controllable with the input dial you mentioned, on the FB-3100 GUI.

Thanks for the great tip .. this is kind of a revelation for me as it seems to give me the best of FL Studio in Ableton .. automating vst parameters with the fruity piano roll .. just wow.

[H-man]

loading Minihost Modular as an instrument plugin and FB-3100 inside that, and it takes in audio mighty fine now. The level of the external signal is controllable with the input dial you mentioned, on the FB-3100 GUI.

Thanks for the great tip .. this is kind of a revelation for me as it seems to give me the best of FL Studio in Ableton .. automating vst parameters with the fruity piano roll .. just wow.

Thanks also Guenon

General, just make sure you can save the "Graph" from Minihost and your patches inside as well. There's more to lose if it goes pear-shaped.

[Taron]

Got a start on a funky little biscuit. I had to save an Init patch with switches in the on position because I kept sitting there turning knobs and fishing through mods only to realize nothing was happening because I hadn't flipped the switches! Pretty deep synth and not really sure what all the mod parameters and triggers do.

I read the LAG can create portamento....any tips?

9 instances so far and just a little verb and eq on the master.

https://soundcloud.com/the-never-scene/ ... ve/s-ubmIN

You know, until now I really never quite understood why the Americans call something "funky", if it's not quite right. Like:"Eh, that kinda looks funky to me!"
BUT YOU HAVE FINALLY cleared that up!
Hahaha, man, I'm sorry... haha, I just can't tell what the heck is what, when and where what ends and starts and wha? That's like the most out of beat beats and it's...no, just no. IT DOES sound great, though! If I imagine it to actually have a 1 somewhere, you know, like as in 1,2,3,4 and 1,2,3,4 or possibly something like a 1 and a 2 and a 1,2,3 and a 1 and a 2 and a 1,2,3,4... I could possibly even live with that.
But this sort of one thing things it's 4/4 beat, the other 7/4 and yet another goes "waltz anyone?"
I would cool this thing first into a good orientation. You can always go wild some time later on, but total chaos nonstop isn't the good kind of "funky", I think?!
Again, it SOUNDS great, though!

[L-EctroBit]

Hey, I have 3200 and 3300 working in linux with Airwave bridge but ardour times out when trying to setup 3100. Anyone had any luck with these plugins in linux?

Yes, you are right about Ardour and FB-3100. In Ardour there is a way to open FB-3100 utilizing Carla-Rack. It seems to work well. Try and let me know.

Also, FB-3100 opens without problems in Tracktion 6. It's a really good free DAW.

[generaldiomedes]

I just can't tell what the heck is what, when and where what ends and starts and wha?

Just google 'Parliament funkadelic' for a crazy trip back to the 70s ..

[Taron]

Thanks, G, I will! But alone the word "funkadelic" is kind of a hint, yes? ("psychedelic", just in case!)
I'm pretty sure, I'm also just a conditioned fool when it comes to all that, thinking of James Brown and some Prince stuff and ending up thinking that was what funk was all about. But that's pop, right!?
Doesn't change that I find the chaos unsettling and wouldn't listen to it for more than 30 sec. It's different, if there was something to lead me into it or the occasional rope of sorts.
I will go google right after my first coffee!!!

[Full Bucket]

..."funkadelic"...

Sorry OT, but funny anyway: One of the few covers we play with our band "Jaccid" is from Funkadelic (1974)... here's a high-speed version.
Cheers, Björn

[Taron]

The first 14 seconds do exactly already what I'm talking about: Providing orientation! What ever comes after that can go where ever it wants to, but you need to first give a clear groove and then you can go as nuts as you want to, you know.
This video is, by the way, a beautiful support/help to anyone, approaching this style, which is WAY FUN!
I don't want to derail this thread, though, as tempting as it is, because this is so fun to think and talk about.

The stuff we could talk about here could be a good inspiration, too, for everyone, though. I mean, I'm feeling inspired!
In NeverScene's little preview everything is at full power very much right from the start, maybe 2 bars of intro, but then the whole stereo blunt of the entire arrangement kicks in with these shifting measures, throwing you off before you get a chance to find yourself in a groove. Too much distraction too soon. I'm sure the entire section could stay in the song just the way it is, but like 1 or even 2 minutes into the track.
I believe, one shouldn't want to challenge the listener's desire or hope to get into a groove. Get them into a groove and then turn the washing cycle to hyper-tumble!

Anyway, THE SOUNDS one can make with your synth set, Bjorn, man.... it's unreal how much fun that is! Wished they all had velocity, but then that's another interesting effect on the compositions. I'm really having tremendous fun!

[Taron]

"Parliament Funkadelic"...checking it:
T O T A L L Y GROOVY as HECK! ..."getting funked up"!
Not sure, if or when there will come a song that throws you off, but thus far it's totally steady.

[TheNeverScene]

Damn Taron, tell me how ya really feel! haha! It's just how I ended up trying to get some sounds going. It's odd, I know, but after the little snare intro, if you count 6,7,6,5, repeat.. it may make more sense.

[Taron]

Haha, just trying to help a brother out, man!
Yeah, you sure get some really cool sounds going, no doubt!
But if you even have to explain how to count it, you know there's trouble!
Every such opportunity to spot potential issues is great to talk about, I (obviously) believe. I sure hope you don't mind!?
Hmmm...makes me wonder: is it really unsolicited help that I'm imposing? ...forgive me, then, please!

[TheNeverScene]

Haha, just trying to help a brother out, man!
Yeah, you sure get some really cool sounds going, no doubt!
But if you even have to explain how to count it, you know there's trouble!
Every such opportunity to spot potential issues is great to talk about, I (obviously) believe. I sure hope you don't mind!?
Hmmm...makes me wonder: is it really unsolicited help that I'm imposing? ...forgive me, then, please!

Me just putting it out there is soliciting help , so no worries there and it's appreciated for sure!

Any ideas on how to get a portamento of sorts without the pitchwheel? The manual says something about possibly using LAG, but I'm not having any luck.

[Full Bucket]

Any ideas on how to get a portamento of sorts without the pitchwheel? The manual says something about possibly using LAG, but I'm not having any luck.

With the PS (and FB) series synths, Portamento is technically not possible nor available.

Maybe I should have stated more clearly in the manual that a LAG processor is typically used for Portamento effects (so that folks immediately understand what it is). The LAGs on the FB-3300 just give you the ability to "smooth" a modulation signal.

You can however feed the KEY modulation source into a LAG and then route the LAG to the Signal Generator FRQ plug. This way you would get some Portamento but also a weird keyboad scaling...

Cheers, Björn