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Dúnedain · Post by **Dúnedain** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:07 am

starflakeprj wrote:
Dúnedain wrote:Hives by U-He
Saurus 2 by Tone 2
Aren't these two very different synths you are comparing Andromeda with? Hive is more "digital" (cold) sounding and Saurus more "analog" (warm) sounding?

Yes might be true. I focused on the structure of the synth. Andromeda has a very remarkable 2 osc + 2 sub design, just like Saurus and Hive.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:29 am

V0RT3X wrote: I've heard plenty of the purists who say that the Andromeda was a good idea, but it was poorly executed because the components they used were sub-par. I still think it sounds better than lots of analog modelling software though

It may not be a Voyetra-8, but the A6 sounds pretty darn good to me. It's certainly the flagship analog polysynth in my collection.

HunterKiller · Post by **HunterKiller** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:47 am

It should be emulated before all of them die.

sergiofrias · Post by **sergiofrias** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:51 pm

Much of the power of andromeda (imo) comes from multitimbral capabilities ,does anyone knows if the factory banks explore this feature(16 voices at max) ,or just uses at maximum 2 to 4 voices/layers?

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:38 pm

sergiofrias wrote:Much of the power of andromeda (imo) comes from multitimbral capabilities ,does anyone knows if the factory banks explore this feature(16 voices at max) ,or just uses at maximum 2 to 4 voices/layers?

Multitimbral is kind of irrelevant when you're talking about something that can have as many instances as you want. Maybe you save a little in some resource overhead by using a single plug in with multiple tracks, but to be honest with you, other than making a few layered sounds, I don't find running a whole bunch of tracks from a single synth to make sense. For instance, I might want a chime-gong, a Moogish sounding lead, dubstep wub-wub bass (though to be honest, I never want that) and string machine sounding pad. Sure, Omnisphere or Falcon could handle all of those things, but I'm doing to instead use it for the chime-gong, Legend for the lead, Massive for the bass and Amber for the pad. It's just easier to get better results faster with tools designed for a specific job.

I'd also say that you'd be better served just looking for plugins that sound good to you, then looking for an emulation of the Andromeda. No one's made it. IMO, the polyphonic synths that seem to really sound the most authentically "analog" are the XILS synths, Diva and Legend. Effects? You're better off using your own separate effect plug ins.

W23 · Post by **W23** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:31 pm

A couple of months ago, I played around with a DSI OB6 in a music store, and yes...It sounded better than any plug I own. No argument there. There's just some in-your-face immediacy that software hasn't (and may never) relplicated. In all fairness, Diva, and the Repro 5 beta (pretty sweet) come awfully close, and I don't have to spend 3K+, or find room for a full size synth in my tiny hovel

W23 · Post by **W23** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:34 pm

Double post. Sorry

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:37 pm

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:06 pm

izonin wrote:Andromeda and Cypher.

Cypher can sound magnificent and I'm not surprised that it came very close to Andromeda. If used in Fusor, it can really come alive with the help of effects, which is what Andromeda allowed as well.
In the past Cypher was misunderstood by a lot of people and not used properly (main issue is not switching the oversampling setting to at least 2x. This changes the sound drastically), but it can go from Minimoog punch and 'density', to Oberheim OBX-like 'power' silkiness. A total VA workhorse.

However, I actually think that Zebra can do it too. When emulating analog synths an open architecture like the one available in Zebra is extremely helpful.
For example, I was able to get some lovely Korg mini 700 sounds from Zebra, which I don't think I could from many other VAs (Cypher can do them too).

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:12 pm

I say this all the time about VSTi vs Hardware Analog, a LOT of the difference in experience is signal path. VSTi in a DAW out a monitor is NOT EVER going to compare to sitting in a room with a synth through an amp and speakers, even if it's just some little self powered monitor speakers. But, I've had really good results playing around with bussing VSTi out to amps and micing that. It makes a huge difference for the "immediacy" and open sound that synths are noted for.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:20 pm

This is where Zebra scores big time: you can insert various wave-shapers in the signal path to add extra 'presence', 'density', and overall harmonic boost, before the waveforms even hit the filters. This can be done on one osc or two or however many and it can really change the sound. Care is needed though, so that the waveforms do not get 'destroyed' with too much wave-shaping, but with judicious use, the results can be great.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:24 pm

Although not 100% the same as Zebra, you can get some of those Andromeda things out of Arturia's Matrix 12 as well. That's what I started bussing. It sounds really good through a cheap assed Fender Stereo Ultimate Chorus amp I have. It lacks a bit of bass because it's a guitar amp, but those Jensens really hold the highs together without the icepick to the eardrums..

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:32 am

Syntronik Galaxy, but also kpr’s Andromeda patches from backintimerecords.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:04 am

learn sound design and the proper use of effects and you can make any sound with anything

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:08 am

You can also make sounds with your a**hole. It'll just sound like sh**.

Andromeda vst alternative?