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ThePresent · Post by **ThePresent** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:33 pm

braj wrote:Here's one:

https://synthmorph.com/products/free-sy ... ph-presets

The guy has done a really great job with it, so why not pay for it?

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:29 pm

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:30 pm

Vortifex wrote:
Russell Grand wrote:I'm with Teksonik on this one: selling patches for freeware is a dick move.
But selling music made with freeware is ok?

Shhhh. Don't try fighting this with logic. It'll just lead to more hostility. lol

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:31 pm

Synth1 is a great synth.

It is made greater because the developer has never asked for a penny in donations.

Charging for Synth1 presets just feels sort of "meh".

There are a huge number of great free presets donated for this synth. As a starting point to tweak ones own presets the bank "Bigtone" by "brok landers" (I think ? ) in my opinion is very hard to beat......

https://audiobombs.com/items/573/bigtone-synth1-presets

fluffy_little_something · Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:18 pm

ShawnG wrote:While I doubt the business wisdom of providing paid patches for a synth which has 25,000 free patches available for it already, It is not really a moral problem. the work of creating a synth, and the work of programming that synth are two entirely different things, and IF there is commercial value to be placed on the sound designer's art at all, there should be no distinction on whether the synth is payware or freeware. (my own opinion, incidentally, is very skeptical of the value of preset packs either free or paid, most of us don't lack for presets, and you can spend more time looking for the right patch, than you would have if you had just programmed it yourself. fm and other complicated synths to program make it more appealing, but a fairly basic 2 osc VA?)

Someone who is willing to provide their work for free is a wonderful thing, but the implicit demand that someone provide their work for free is not.

Of those 25k a lot are probably similar to each other.
I think it is perfectly possible to make new patches for that old synth. And quality patches, each of which can take hours to make. So, if someone invests so much time and effort, why not charge a bit for it? Maybe that Japanese developer has a regular job and doesn't need the money from his hobby, unlike some sound designers.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:16 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote: Of those 25k a lot are probably similar to each other.
I think it is perfectly possible to make new patches for that old synth. And quality patches, each of which can take hours to make. So, if someone invests so much time and effort, why not charge a bit for it? Maybe that Japanese developer has a regular job and doesn't need the money from his hobby, unlike some sound designers.

Bah Humbug !

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:51 pm

Teksonik wrote:If you have to ask why then you won't understand the answer. It's all about morals. You have to have them to understand.

Everyone has their own moral code. You can't expect/demand that everyone subscribe to your personal one.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:15 pm

I guess if you buy an IOS app, that makes you morally bankrupt as well as the person who created the app and sells it. Cause all this stuff runs on open source code.

I could keep going but the degree of sanctimony around this place is just too much for my stomach.

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:07 am

wagtunes wrote:I guess if you buy an IOS app, that makes you morally bankrupt as well as the person who created the app and sells it. Cause all this stuff runs on open source code.

I could keep going but the degree of sanctimony around this place is just too much for my stomach.

As you do not belong to the "I love synth1 club" it is of course hard for you to understand.

For those of us who meet once a month in a dark club somewhere in a secretive town to do homage to Ichiro Toda,then all is clear.

Synth1 "freedom is,as freedom was,and always will be".

Hail Ichiro !

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:30 am

dellboy wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I guess if you buy an IOS app, that makes you morally bankrupt as well as the person who created the app and sells it. Cause all this stuff runs on open source code.

I could keep going but the degree of sanctimony around this place is just too much for my stomach.
As you do not belong to the "I love synth1 club" it is of course hard for you to understand.

For those of us who meet once a month in a dark club somewhere in a secretive town to do homage to Ichiro Toda,then all is clear.

Synth1 "freedom is,as freedom was,and always will be".

Hail Ichiro !

Do you guys still drink goat's blood out of human skulls? because that's just wrong. More so than selling Synth1 presets.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:30 am

fluffy_little_something wrote: Of those 25k a lot are probably similar to each other.
I think it is perfectly possible to make new patches for that old synth. And quality patches, each of which can take hours to make. So, if someone invests so much time and effort, why not charge a bit for it? Maybe that Japanese developer has a regular job and doesn't need the money from his hobby, unlike some sound designers.

What exactly are “quality” patches? Which combination of front panel controls leads to high quality, and which combination leads to low quality?

fanodu1 · Post by **fanodu1** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:43 am

I just made this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn3zdyogr1ygh ... 1.wav?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2ypze3v9g0rr ... 1.zip?dl=0

Sounds pretty similar I think.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:46 am

dellboy wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I guess if you buy an IOS app, that makes you morally bankrupt as well as the person who created the app and sells it. Cause all this stuff runs on open source code.

I could keep going but the degree of sanctimony around this place is just too much for my stomach.
As you do not belong to the "I love synth1 club" it is of course hard for you to understand.

For those of us who meet once a month in a dark club somewhere in a secretive town to do homage to Ichiro Toda,then all is clear.

Synth1 "freedom is,as freedom was,and always will be".

Hail Ichiro !

Very good.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:49 am

fanodu1 wrote:I just made this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn3zdyogr1ygh ... 1.wav?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2ypze3v9g0rr ... 1.zip?dl=0

Sounds pretty similar I think.

nahhh this guy nailed it:

Chris-S wrote:Hi guys,
here is my attempt recreating this sound.

EDIT: fxp attached.

slipstick · Post by **slipstick** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:21 am

deastman wrote:What exactly are “quality” patches? Which combination of front panel controls leads to high quality, and which combination leads to low quality?

I can't tell you that out here where anyone could be listening. Knowing that sort of thing is why people pay those quality sound designers.

Steve

Synth1 need Toto Africa sounds!