KVR Audio

kiezum · Post by **kiezum** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:49 am

In the past I used the free Samplitude as wave-editor. Now I am discovering Samplitude again. It's a brilliant sample editor! Object processing, batch processing, etc. It's also great for mastering.

sluggo · Post by **sluggo** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:07 am

Why would a person want to use SoundForge if they have Samplitude?

nathanj · Post by **nathanj** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:30 am

@sluggo

I feel like this answer to your question is pretty subjective.

I just bought the pack because I used to use Sound Forge when it was owned by Sonic Foundry and have wanted Spectral Layers since it was released. SF offers multi window editing - you can select a region of a wave forum and drag it to the background and an new wave file is created of that selection. You can then edit it however you want and drag it back and either over write the existing region or mix it in. I've never seen this feature (quattro dsp does kind of but not as fluently).

There is also a bunch of processes (Wave Hammer, for example) that are awesome.

But, that said I honestly have only started using Samplitude (and am thrilled with it so far) so maybe there isn't much difference, i honestly can't speak to that. One thing though, I do find that working in dedicated wave editors to be much faster - but again, this could be personal preference.

That said, I just just discovered the Object Editor. Pretty slick with the automation feature.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:05 am

nathanj wrote: I just bought the pack because I used to use Sound Forge when it was owned by Sonic Foundry and have wanted Spectral Layers since it was released. SF offers multi window editing - you can select a region of a wave forum and drag it to the background and an new wave file is created of that selection. You can then edit it however you want and drag it back and either over write the existing region or mix it in. I've never seen this feature (quattro dsp does kind of but not as fluently).

You can do this same procedure with basically every DAW that I'm aware of, including samplitude.

telecharge · Post by **telecharge** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:21 am

Somehow I completely missed that Kraznet had posted instructions a few pages back for linking Samplitude to Sound Forge and SpectraLayers. Thanks for that, Kraznet!

It's like wave editing inception with SpectraLayers integrating with Sound Forge, and Sound Forge integrating with Samplitude.

Hopefully, I can figure out when to use what, but I'm open to any suggestions.

nathanj · Post by **nathanj** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:26 am

@Robert Randolph

Yes, in every DAW but not in every wave editor.

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:32 am

nathanj wrote:@Robert Randolph

Yes, in every DAW but not in every wave editor.

But this was his question:

sluggo wrote:Why would a person want to use SoundForge if they have Samplitude?

That means he already has a DAW to use in this context.

All of wavehammer's functionality is replicated in Samplitude as well.

nathanj · Post by **nathanj** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:47 am

That's fair enough.

I was just adding that as a wave editor, Sound Forge can be really efficient and unique for designing sound. Personally, I find dedicated wave editors to be much faster for editing large amounts of audio - this is why I would want to use SF over a DAW. However, I haven't used Samplitude's wave editing features so maybe I should have just kept my mouth shut to avoid the confusion.

danielh02 · Post by **danielh02** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:14 am

So I picked this up with the sale price. When I run it and click on certain areas (e.g., switch the tabs in the object editor), the mouse jumps to the bottom of the screen... Really makes it hard to even use the program.

This is on Windows 10... Anyone else experiencing this?

Dan

toonertik · Post by **toonertik** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:15 am

Robert Randolph wrote:
You can do this same procedure with basically every DAW that I'm aware of, including samplitude.

I don't think so...
I make single_cycle_wavs for synths... Sometimes grabbing a cycle from a long wav, resampling it to make it say 2048 or however many samples a particular synths wants to see the single_cycle_wav... changing bit depth...cutting and pasting sections from different wav_files and many other things that I don't think can be done in a DAW... if it can be done in a DAW it is clumsy.
A good wave editor is a blessing for this kind of work for me.

toonertik · Post by **toonertik** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:21 am

Kraznet wrote:
How does that daw interoperability work? And I wonder if it was smart to remove VST plugin support.

You can link Sound Forge and Spectral Layers Pro to Samplitude from File > Program Preferences > External tools. Once that is done you can right click on an audio object and choose to edit the audio in either of these programs.

I guess this feature was introduced in build 157.. as I don't see it in 14.0.0.16, the build that came in the offer... yes, it invites me to upgrade but I am still organising my system for 64 bit so have not done the upgrade yet!

telecharge · Post by **telecharge** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:00 am

toonertik wrote:I guess this feature was introduced in build 157.. as I don't see it in 14.0.0.16, the build that came in the offer... yes, it invites me to upgrade but I am still organising my system for 64 bit so have not done the upgrade yet!

You nailed it. I just checked the readme_en.pdf, and it lists:

External editing in Sound Forge

Object context menu "Edit in Sound Forge..."
After closing Sound Forge object is updated automatically

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:30 am

telecharge wrote:Somehow I completely missed that Kraznet had posted instructions a few pages back for linking Samplitude to Sound Forge and SpectraLayers. Thanks for that, Kraznet!

It's like wave editing inception with SpectraLayers integrating with Sound Forge, and Sound Forge integrating with Samplitude.

Hopefully, I can figure out when to use what, but I'm open to any suggestions.

Most DAWs offer this integration with Wave editors

danielh02 · Post by **danielh02** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:08 pm

danielh02 wrote:So I picked this up with the sale price. When I run it and click on certain areas (e.g., switch the tabs in the object editor), the mouse jumps to the bottom of the screen... Really makes it hard to even use the program.

This is on Windows 10... Anyone else experiencing this?

Dan

Figured this out... I had to disable "Smart Move" in my Logitech mouse preferences...

-Dan

telecharge · Post by **telecharge** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:00 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:Most DAWs offer this integration with Wave editors

Yeah, I was hoping to learn of any unique features, capabilities, or workflow that these tools offer when integrated.

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