[solved, kind of...] AnalogLab 3/Buchla Easel- Nasty CPU bug

Official support for: arturia.com
PhilG
KVRist
169 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from A small village in the north of Germany

Post Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:39 am

Hi,

just updated Analog Lab V2 to V3.
All Buchla "Pad" patches start with 100% CPU load !!

Anyone else has this?

HP 8470p
i7 3630QM
16 GB Ram
Windows 10 Pro 1709 64bit
Last edited by PhilG on Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:13 am, edited 3 times in total.

gohan2a
KVRer
8 posts since 4 Jul, 2015

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:56 pm

hi, i've tried with "bass wish" bass preset no problem

OSX 10.12.3
i7 4.0G
16Go DDR3

User avatar
DuX
KVRAF
3630 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:59 pm

HP Laptop? Good luck, mate. It's full of crap. Delete and start again or hire someone who knows how to setup an OS for audio.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

PhilG
KVRist
169 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from A small village in the north of Germany

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:07 am

DuX wrote:HP Laptop? Good luck, mate. It's full of crap. Delete and start again or hire someone who knows how to setup an OS for audio.
Huh, does your mum know that you´re playing with her computer?

Elitebook 8470p Mod i7, 16 GB Ram, 2x SSD, Win 10 Pro 64bit 1709
Antelope Zen Tour
NI Komplete KONTROL S49 & Maschine Jam

User avatar
DuX
KVRAF
3630 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:56 am

PhilG wrote:
DuX wrote:HP Laptop? Good luck, mate. It's full of crap. Delete and start again or hire someone who knows how to setup an OS for audio.
Huh, does your mum know that you´re playing with her computer?
What's that supposed to mean? I'm 47 and I've been assembling and maintaining audio computers since the 90s. All laptops come with loads of company crap installed by default and if you want to be able to use them for audio without any problems you have to install a fresh OS on it.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

User avatar
topaz
KVRAF
4184 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:07 am

no issue here,
OSX 12.12.6
Mac Pro 5.1
32GB
PhilG wrote:Hi,

just updated Analog Lab V2 to V3.
All Buchla "Pad" patches start with 100% CPU load !!

Anyone else has this?

HP 8470p
i7 3630QM
16 GB Ram
Windows 10 Pro 1709 64bit

User avatar
DuX
KVRAF
3630 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:18 am

topaz wrote:no issue here,
OSX 12.12.6
Mac Pro 5.1
32GB
PhilG wrote:Hi,

just updated Analog Lab V2 to V3.
All Buchla "Pad" patches start with 100% CPU load !!

Anyone else has this?

HP 8470p
i7 3630QM
16 GB Ram
Windows 10 Pro 1709 64bit
Pre-installed OSX is much easier to "tame" for audio than Windows, especially W10. :tu:

Big and less big corporations couldn't care less about the music production. :?
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

Scotty
KVRAF
1657 posts since 23 Dec, 2002

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:39 am

Ignore it... your post is helpful. I'll see if I get the same CPU behaviour on my 3930K. Thanks. - Scotty
DuX wrote:
PhilG wrote:
DuX wrote:HP Laptop? Good luck, mate. It's full of crap. Delete and start again or hire someone who knows how to setup an OS for audio.
Huh, does your mum know that you´re playing with her computer?
What's that supposed to mean? I'm 47 and I've been assembling and maintaining audio computers since the 90s. All laptops come with loads of company crap installed by default and if you want to be able to use them for audio without any problems you have to install a fresh OS on it.
Asusp9712Core,RayDats,OASYSPCI,Cubase9,KorgLeg,Avalon737s+2022,UA4710D,6176,DCS,LA610MK2s,Neve, ARC2, Soundtoys,UADOCTO,AdamA7X, SphereMics, BCF+R2000s, DrmBrut,MiniLog,Volcas,MoogSubPhat,EnsqDP4,VirusC,Scope,MinBrut,Plugiator,NIS61 Ultimate,ComposrsCld.

PhilG
KVRist
169 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from A small village in the north of Germany

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:11 am

DuX wrote:
PhilG wrote:
DuX wrote:HP Laptop? Good luck, mate. It's full of crap. Delete and start again or hire someone who knows how to setup an OS for audio.
Huh, does your mum know that you´re playing with her computer?
What's that supposed to mean? I'm 47 and I've been assembling and maintaining audio computers since the 90s. All laptops come with loads of company crap installed by default and if you want to be able to use them for audio without any problems you have to install a fresh OS on it.
I´m sorry then, but I´m quite experienced too.
The laptop got two new SSD and I installed everything from scratch without all the company crap ;)
I double checked with another Windows 10 system and there are some serious issues with some of the Buchla patches.
The CPU load doesn´t go down again even there is no audio generated anymore-
Opened a support ticket at Arturia.

Elitebook 8470p Mod i7, 16 GB Ram, 2x SSD, Win 10 Pro 64bit 1709
Antelope Zen Tour
NI Komplete KONTROL S49 & Maschine Jam

User avatar
CC4
KVRian
806 posts since 25 Apr, 2004 from Windsor, Ontario

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:55 pm

If you check out the overview page for the Buchla Easel, it says "* Note that while our extreme modeling at the component level on the Buchla Easel V delivers insanely great analog sound, each voice of polyphony requires significant processing power to pull it off—approximately 20 percent of an i7 CPU per voice."

PhilG
KVRist
169 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from A small village in the north of Germany

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:07 pm

CC4 wrote:If you check out the overview page for the Buchla Easel, it says "* Note that while our extreme modeling at the component level on the Buchla Easel V delivers insanely great analog sound, each voice of polyphony requires significant processing power to pull it off—approximately 20 percent of an i7 CPU per voice."
Nice find, but it takes 80% CPU immediately after loading some patches without a note played or it doesn´t release the CPU load when the sound faded to zero.
It can´t be right, that an idle instrument is blocking your CPU.

Elitebook 8470p Mod i7, 16 GB Ram, 2x SSD, Win 10 Pro 64bit 1709
Antelope Zen Tour
NI Komplete KONTROL S49 & Maschine Jam

User avatar
DuX
KVRAF
3630 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:27 pm

It could be using CPU per voice "in advance", like their Matrix12V, so try lowering the polyphony/number of voices. Works for Matrix12V.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

PhilG
KVRist
169 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from A small village in the north of Germany

Re: AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:55 am

DuX wrote:It could be using CPU per voice "in advance", like their Matrix12V, so try lowering the polyphony/number of voices. Works for Matrix12V.
This is Analog Lab 3 without Buchla Easel plug-in installed.
So there´s no way to lower the polyphony.

And I can play Repro-5 in HQ some demanding 8 voice patches with 6 keys pressed without problems.
As soon as the sound fades the cpu load goes down.
That´s how it should be.

Elitebook 8470p Mod i7, 16 GB Ram, 2x SSD, Win 10 Pro 64bit 1709
Antelope Zen Tour
NI Komplete KONTROL S49 & Maschine Jam

PhilG
KVRist
169 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from A small village in the north of Germany

Re: [solved] AnalogLab 3 - Nasty bug

Post Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:01 pm

It´s not a bug, it´s a feature!

https://www.arturia.com/faq/buchlaeasel ... -questions

In my opinion this is a bad idea and bad design.
I don´t like things which force me to adapt or change my workflow.
In this case, if you want to use some sounds from Buchla Easel in a project you´re working on, you´ll have to bounce or freeze the part immediately.
Otherwise the idle instance(s) will eat a big part of the CPU power you may need for other instruments or FX.

Elitebook 8470p Mod i7, 16 GB Ram, 2x SSD, Win 10 Pro 64bit 1709
Antelope Zen Tour
NI Komplete KONTROL S49 & Maschine Jam

Return to “Arturia”