For The Love Of God...How Do You Create A Wav That Loops?

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I am at the end of my rope. I have tried everything. Kontakt only allows you to save in nki format. TX16wx works inside the sampler but when I save the wav and load it into Hexeract, it doesn't loop.

I don't know if the problem is the sampler (non destructive editing) or a problem with Hexeract.

Can somebody give me something that will do what I want it to do, load into Hexeract, and play back looped?

This shouldn't be THIS hard.

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If the sample is playing as a one-shot, there is likely a loop setting in the instrument to make the sample play continuously.
Are there examples of patches for the instrument which do have looping sample playback? Can you find out which setting stops the looping for that patch?

If you find that the sample does play back continuously but the loop points are not where you would expect, I would suggesting using an audio editor which allows you to export after making edits. Most DAWs will do that.

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I didn't think that it was possible to set a wav (or any audio/video) file to loop all by itself. I thought that was a function of the sample player.
I know I set some samples to loop in HALion, which they did, but they didn't loop outside of it.

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I had a look at the Hexaract site because I had never heard of it. Using my phone... Boy, I bet the programmer is really proud of it... Black background, nice bright white text, scroll down and it fades out before you get to read it all - scroll back up, it fades back in. :dog:

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A wav file won't loop by itself.
You can include markers (a zero-crossing) that some software will read and make the sample loop.
In Kontakt, you just need to define those markers and set playback as loop. But the original wav won't be affected.
I think the old (Sony?) acid format can store the markers inside the wav file. That way, any software which can read acid wav files will find the loop points.

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Try Wavosaur. It is free wave editor and you can add loop (select area where you want loop and simply hit "L" key and don't forget save) in wave files, but if it will be working with Hexeract I don't know. I used it for some synth, but I can't remember which, it was long ago. And be careful when saving, because it is easy override original wave if you do some edit (it don't ask if you want override file).

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First thing you need to ascertain is whether Hexeract can read WAV files with embeded loop metadata. I had a quick look at their site but didn't find any info relating to this.

I wonder if it supports the SFZ format?

(Note to Hexeract website developers: it's a very mobile unfrindly website with those fade effects. Some items would go to 'black' before I could see them).
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The developer would be the authority on what format the synth's audiofile loader supports, and how looping is enabled. It seems to be built using the HISE framework, but there's no telling if there's custom code involved.
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Okay, I did some investigating so I don't waste my time trying to do something that can't be done.

1. I loaded the saved file that I created into Kontakt and it loops. So the loop markers are absolutely saved in the file. Hexeract simply doesn't play them back.

2. I searched for the samples used by Hexeract. They are not wav files. They are CH1 files which is obviously some Hexeract proprietary format.

So unless there is a way for me to create CH1 files, I'm pretty sure that what I'm trying to do can't be done.

This makes this software totally useless if I want to load in my own samples.

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Just heard back from Auddict. Long story short, their software does not currently support playing looped samples. Maybe in the future.

Wish I'd never gotten it.

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wagtunes wrote:Just heard back from Auddict. Long story short, their software does not currently support playing looped samples. Maybe in the future.

Wish I'd never gotten it.
Understandable, support for looped samples is basic stuff.
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For the love of god
Please... no blasphemy at Christmas time. :P

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murnau wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Just heard back from Auddict. Long story short, their software does not currently support playing looped samples. Maybe in the future.

Wish I'd never gotten it.
Understandable, support for looped samples is basic stuff.
I have no idea what they were thinking when one of the main selling points of this "synth" was being able to load in your own samples. I mean if they gave you a gazillion samples to use, maybe I could overlook it. But they give you relatively very few.

Inexcusable.

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chk071 wrote:
For the love of god
Please... no blasphemy at Christmas time. :P
Merry Christmas my friend. I hope for Christmas you get a great sampler that loops. :P

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Just had a quick look at the sampler spec in HISE and it does support the SFZ format. Should Hexerakt start supporting it, you should have a very easy way to use looped multi-samples. Send a feature request to the devs.
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himalaya wrote:Just had a quick look at the sampler spec in HISE and it does support the SFZ format. Should Hexerakt start supporting it, you should have a very easy way to use looped multi-samples. Send a feature request to the devs.
I've already discussed this with them at another forum.

Here's their response.
I wouldn‘t call it an oversight. We‘ve added the ability to add one custom sample (no plural here) so that people can play around and combine it with the existing sounds but HEXERACT is and was never promoted as full sampler workstation.

However people seem to like that feature a lot which is why we are planning enhancements in this area. Last update brought the ability to save the custom sample path relatively so that you can share presets across systems easier. Import loop points and the ability to change the root note if the pitch detection algorithm fails will probably be next, but there are no plans to add custom multisample sets or extend the scope of HEXERACT into any kind of sampler workstation.
You can take all that to mean whatever you like. I'm not holding my breath.

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