Best VST instrument for relaxation, Ambient, sounds

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Ambient or sound for relaxtion in general might be very different for different people.
I f.e. find more modern producers like AstroPilot much more interesting and versatile than Brian Eno or other famous people.....yeah i know, sacrilege.
But i would say in general that the mixture of good FX, acoustic and synthetic sounds is the way to go.
A synth like Scuplture is great since it sounds very organic but still from out of this world.
Another fav would be also Prism (Reaktor synth).
I also love to hear things like the Interstellar soundtrack to chill out.

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What everybody in this thread has totally missed, and yeah, I got caught up in it too, is that not ONCE has the OP returned to this thread and given any kind of examples of what kind of ambient music he wants to do. Please don't say it all sounds the same. I'll scream. I can play you two established successful ambient artists that sound nothing alike.

When I created my "project" threads, I knew EXACTLY what I wanted to do and gave examples. As a result, the project, at least to my satisfaction, was a success because the members here knew EXACTLY what I was looking for and knew what to recommend. And I thank all of you who participated in those project threads. You were enormously helpful.

But I have zero clue what this guy wants to do. So how can I recommend anything to him?

I'm hoping he'll return to this thread and post some examples of what it is he's trying to accomplish. Until then, we're just imposing our own opinions of what makes "ambient music" which may have absolutely no relation to his concept of the same.

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wagtunes wrote:What everybody in this thread has totally missed, and yeah, I got caught up in it too, is that not ONCE has the OP returned to this thread and given any kind of examples of what kind of ambient music he wants to do. Please don't say it all sounds the same. I'll scream. I can play you two established successful ambient artists that sound nothing alike.

When I created my "project" threads, I knew EXACTLY what I wanted to do and gave examples. As a result, the project, at least to my satisfaction, was a success because the members here knew EXACTLY what I was looking for and knew what to recommend. And I thank all of you who participated in those project threads. You were enormously helpful.

But I have zero clue what this guy wants to do. So how can I recommend anything to him?

I'm hoping he'll return to this thread and post some examples of what it is he's trying to accomplish. Until then, we're just imposing our own opinions of what makes "ambient music" which may have absolutely no relation to his concept of the same.
We didn't all totally miss it, some of us asked several times. Forget him, let's pick up the topic from the more interesting perspectives that have been discussed.

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At least we can list all our favorite tools and artists... like in 90% of the KVR threads. :D

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Cinebient wrote:At least we can list all our favorite tools and artists... like in 90% of the KVR threads. :D
Do I detect a bit of jadedness or is that just thinly veiled sarcasm? LOL

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wagtunes wrote:
Cinebient wrote:At least we can list all our favorite tools and artists... like in 90% of the KVR threads. :D
Do I detect a bit of jadedness or is that just thinly veiled sarcasm? LOL
It was just a bad joke of course.....but maybe with a bit truth in it.
We all are guilty of course. :wink:

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ghettosynth wrote:
wagtunes wrote:What everybody in this thread has totally missed, and yeah, I got caught up in it too, is that not ONCE has the OP returned to this thread and given any kind of examples of what kind of ambient music he wants to do. Please don't say it all sounds the same. I'll scream. I can play you two established successful ambient artists that sound nothing alike.

When I created my "project" threads, I knew EXACTLY what I wanted to do and gave examples. As a result, the project, at least to my satisfaction, was a success because the members here knew EXACTLY what I was looking for and knew what to recommend. And I thank all of you who participated in those project threads. You were enormously helpful.

But I have zero clue what this guy wants to do. So how can I recommend anything to him?

I'm hoping he'll return to this thread and post some examples of what it is he's trying to accomplish. Until then, we're just imposing our own opinions of what makes "ambient music" which may have absolutely no relation to his concept of the same.
We didn't all totally miss it, some of us asked several times. Forget him, let's pick up the topic from the more interesting perspectives that have been discussed.
There has been so much discussed in this thread, I can't even keep track of it all. In fact, this thread has become as big a wash as some of the ambient music itself.

Some people consider John Cage's 4'33 ambient music. Others, ambient noise. And then there are those who just consider it a big joke that he played on all the stupid gullible fanatics who will consider anything music if some big name artist says it is.

I'll refrain from commenting as to what camp I'm in. Either way, there will be somebody who will disagree.

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Cinebient wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Cinebient wrote:At least we can list all our favorite tools and artists... like in 90% of the KVR threads. :D
Do I detect a bit of jadedness or is that just thinly veiled sarcasm? LOL
It was just a bad joke of course.....but maybe with a bit truth in it.
We all are guilty of course. :wink:
Don't I know it.

Hey, maybe it's time for another list. A list of my favorite ambient artists.

Let me work on that. LOL

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For what reason do we need the OP?
(By the way: his last reaction was on Friday...)
We all love and practice self-referential discussions.
In terms of music this is called „loops“…
:idea:

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egbert101 wrote:
wagtunes wrote: I'm hoping he'll return to this thread and post some examples of what it is he's trying to accomplish. Until then, we're just imposing our own opinions of what makes "ambient music" which may have absolutely no relation to his concept of the same.
The OP said:
I'm hoping to make some relaxation music with ambient, pads, soundscape type musical noise, I wondered what the best VST instruments would be, what do people think ? Really looking for mellow sounds.
Hope that's not too vague/general, I'm just doing it for fun !
He didn't say anything about what type of ambient music he liked, he didn't need to. He asked about "what the best VST instruments would be for relaxation music with ambient, pads, soundscape type musical noise." which is a perfectly acceptable thing to ask.
This could still be just about anything. It's a very broad, general almost "cliche'd" description of what most people think of ambient music who really don't understand or know the genre beyond the basics. It doesn't tell me anything. I could post examples and he could absolutely say "No, that's not what I'm looking for."

An actual example of the kind of music he wants to do, regardless of whether he likes it or not, would have helped a whole lot.

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wagtunes wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Cinebient wrote:At least we can list all our favorite tools and artists... like in 90% of the KVR threads. :D
Do I detect a bit of jadedness or is that just thinly veiled sarcasm? LOL
It was just a bad joke of course.....but maybe with a bit truth in it.
We all are guilty of course. :wink:
Don't I know it.

Hey, maybe it's time for another list. A list of my favorite ambient artists.

Let me work on that. LOL
You can make the thread more useful to anyone by saying, "I like to do this style of ambient and for that I use this synth because it does A, B, and C really well."

People are lazy, they just list their favorite synth because it's like getting some crack! Woot, got that hit, move on to the next hit. No need to engage more deeply.

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ghettosynth wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Cinebient wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Cinebient wrote:At least we can list all our favorite tools and artists... like in 90% of the KVR threads. :D
Do I detect a bit of jadedness or is that just thinly veiled sarcasm? LOL
It was just a bad joke of course.....but maybe with a bit truth in it.
We all are guilty of course. :wink:
Don't I know it.

Hey, maybe it's time for another list. A list of my favorite ambient artists.

Let me work on that. LOL
You can make the thread more useful to anyone by saying, "I like to do this style of ambient and for that I use this synth because it does A, B, and C really well."

People are lazy, they just list their favorite synth because it's like getting some crack! Woot, got that hit, move on to the next hit. No need to engage more deeply.
That's actually a very good suggestion. I'll work on that too. I need to take a break from all this preset manufacturing anyway.

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egbert101 wrote:
wagtunes wrote: I'm hoping he'll return to this thread and post some examples of what it is he's trying to accomplish. Until then, we're just imposing our own opinions of what makes "ambient music" which may have absolutely no relation to his concept of the same.
The OP said:
I'm hoping to make some relaxation music with ambient, pads, soundscape type musical noise, I wondered what the best VST instruments would be, what do people think ? Really looking for mellow sounds.
Hope that's not too vague/general, I'm just doing it for fun !
He didn't say anything about what type of ambient music he liked, he didn't need to. He asked about "what the best VST instruments would be for relaxation music with ambient, pads, soundscape type musical noise." which is a perfectly acceptable thing to ask.

Thanks Egbert ! When I started this thread I didn't have any music in mind to emulate, just wanted something capable of making relaxing and mellow sounds ...I'm a guitar player mostly and don't know a lot about Synths on the market, this thread had been really useful as I've said several times.
People have posted far more interesting examples of Ambient music here than I was even aware of, as I said it's just for fun really and I'm very grateful for the recommendations. There's a lot of stuff to demo and I've been listening to the recommendations (and baulking at the prices in some cases haha)

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