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Equilibrium · Post by **Equilibrium** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:49 am

Ok, I'm very new to sampling and stuff... Was wondering how you manipulate your samples? I'm mucking about with breaks at the momment in the hope to create some decent sounding drum and bass loops...
I have Wavelab and Cubase to work with but at the moment all I have done is speed up the chopped up breaks and pitchshifted them and stuff.

How does eveyone else go about it?

Thanks you lots for replies

Equilibrium · Post by **Equilibrium** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:34 pm

too big?

torhan · Post by **torhan** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:37 pm

Equilibrium wrote:too big

That's what she said.

Alan Lastufka · Post by **Alan Lastufka** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:38 pm

I don't use loops - I use multisamples - however there are loads of VST FX plug-ins that will do plenty of damage to your audio - using plugs other than how they were intended is alot of fun - for instance - take a delay plug on your snare - crank the output up and run it thru a tube/saturation/distortion FX and then into a gritty compressor...

Instant fun

neverwhere2012 · Post by **neverwhere2012** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:40 pm

Equilibrium wrote:Ok, I'm very new to sampling and stuff... Was wondering how you manipulate your samples? I'm mucking about with breaks at the momment in the hope to create some decent sounding drum and bass loops...
I have Wavelab and Cubase to work with but at the moment all I have done is speed up the chopped up breaks and pitchshifted them and stuff.

How does eveyone else go about it?

Thanks you lots for replies

you continue mucking around until you stumble across something cool.... you also learn to embrace your UNDO hot key

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:59 pm

torhan wrote:
Equilibrium wrote:too big
That's what she said.

That's a whole new sad.

Karen-K · Post by **Karen-K** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:10 pm

hi boy, not that big

try some steroids

seriously:
I suggest you to buy something that will be more appropriate than wavelab,let's say something like Phatmatik, recycle (I think SX read REX files,Recycle native file type),Beatcreator/FLstudio or if you don't want to put too much money in it something like DR-008...
Lil' tip: slice your breaks in wavelab, then import them in DR-008 and use the internal DR-008 sequencer to build new breaks, it will work flawlessly.
If you justwant to "transform" your breaks, use VST fx, their are lots of free one.BTW I would recommand Ohmforce plugins, very creatives one.

Hope it helps
Kisses
Karen

MrM · Post by **MrM** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:15 pm

Karen-K wrote:Kisses
Karen

Karen-K · Post by **Karen-K** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:19 pm

if I start giving one, I'll have to do it all the time

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:08 am

Equilibrium wrote:Ok, I'm very new to sampling and stuff... Was wondering how you manipulate your samples? I'm mucking about with breaks at the momment in the hope to create some decent sounding drum and bass loops...
I have Wavelab and Cubase to work with but at the moment all I have done is speed up the chopped up breaks and pitchshifted them and stuff.

How does eveyone else go about it?

Thanks you lots for replies

Mostly I tend to use/abuse filters and LFOs, sometimes shifting the root to get me an octave down or up (usually down, I'm in love with bass that shakes your brains out). A decent sampler with a couple of assignable LFOs and I can turn even a lame vocal sample into the scream of a tormented beast from Hell! The OPlat sampler has two LFOs, I assign one to filter and the other to either pitch or pan, and I'm good to go! Although that might *not* be what you're looking for, of course.

I don't chop or edit a lot, I'm not looking for "beats" or hits for arps, I'm more a "texture and soundscape" kind of guy. Although I've taken a drum hit, filtered and pitch-shifted it, layered it with a sample of an explosion reversed.. very, very weird, but somehow.. musical.

For true sickness, import a sample into Cameleon and morph it into chaotic horror! Doesn't work with all samples but some produce amazing (if you're into that kind of thing) results.

Wish I could give you a more methodical/scientific approach, but I just sit down and start experimenting.

Andywanders · Post by **Andywanders** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:22 am

Karen-K wrote:I suggest you to buy something that will be more appropriate than wavelab,let's say something like Phatmatik, recycle (I think SX read REX files,Recycle native file type),Beatcreator/FLstudio or if you don't want to put too much money in it something like DR-008...
Lil' tip: slice your breaks in wavelab, then import them in DR-008 and use the internal DR-008 sequencer to build new breaks, it will work flawlessly.

Just like to add Wavesurgeon to that list. It chops the loop into beats and exports a MIDI file like Recycle, and you can reverse individual hits which is quite a nice effect if applied with discretion.

Also KT Granulator is good for mangling.

neverwhere2012 · Post by **neverwhere2012** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:28 pm

most of the destroy FX plugins are great for mangling audio too.

Equilibrium · Post by **Equilibrium** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:07 pm

ok, great advice here. I'm gonna try and get my hands on some decent effects now.

Karen - When you chop up a break you have to deal with the hi hat or ride tho and that normally screws stuff up in my experience. I'll give it another try tho. And I ain't takin any steriods, I use my three and a half inch longsword with sheer mastery.

Thanks all

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:43 pm

Karen-K wrote:yes 90D but I also have a brain

Nine OD's and you still have a brain!?

Jojo

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