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THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:02 pm

Guenon wrote:
THE INTRANCER wrote:Reaper is very stable lol...
Reaper's been running constantly on my workstation with an open project 24/7 since I last posted in this thread, hehe

That tells me that you're scared to shut it down for fear that your project is corrupted when you re-open it. Sound on Sound magazine have even reported of this issue in 2015 where songs have been corrupted, and even written a how to help you try and recover it. I run over 300 plugin's in Studio One 3 and never ran into any problems with any plugin's corrupting my work..

Here's the article here about corrupted projects, in Reaper.. https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... t-recovery

Apratim · Post by **Apratim** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:05 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:Reaper is very stable lol... this has been my regular experience with this daw over 17 years, even with the latest versions in the past few years.

the startup logo in the back ground is of reaper 4 not 5 get the latest version and run it and see weather it is still un sable if it is then it has something to do with your drivers or something like that

Guenon · Post by **Guenon** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:14 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:That tells me that you're scared to shut it down for fear that your project is corrupted when you re-open it.

No, it doesn't tell you that

I enjoy having my most recent project open right at my fingertips, and I am able to do so for extended periods of time with no concerns over stability whatsoever.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:15 pm

Apratim wrote:the startup logo in the back ground is of reaper 4 not 5 get the latest version and run it and see weather it is still un sable if it is then it has something to do with your drivers or something like that

That's a google image just to make my contrary point the previous poster made in saying it's very stable. An illustration of what I've seen regularly over the years.

Guenon · Post by **Guenon** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:15 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:That's a google image just to make my contrary point the previous poster made in saying it's very stable.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:28 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:Reaper is very stable lol... this has been my regular experience with this daw over 17 years, even with the latest versions in the past few years.

So unstable you had to google for that image?!

Guenon · Post by **Guenon** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:30 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:Here's the article here about corrupted projects, in Reaper.. https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... t-recovery

It's a good read from 2015. And the very first sentence of that article is: "For me, Reaper has always been extremely reliable — more so, in fact, than various other sequencers I’ve used over the last 20 years."

The article describes how you can troubleshoot misbehaving (old plugins / plugins with assets missing / modular environments like Reaktor or Max/MSP overloading / etc.) elements you have saved along with a project and which can cause trouble while reload. It's good info for any host.

Here's a similar troubleshooting guide for Studio One for those times it fails to load projects: https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?f=152&t=32

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:45 pm

i've only had REAPER itself crash whenever i've used pre-release versions. every other time REAPER has crashed (which happens quite rare) has been due to buggy plugins - Slate stuff mostly, and previous versions of Satson has been known to crash REAPER from time to time. turn on autosave every few minutes and all your problems go away even with buggy plugins, should you have any.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:53 pm

Ok, so we all agree. Reaper is the best, most stable host in the universe.
And it sounds warmer than Cubase.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:19 pm

Guenon wrote:
THE INTRANCER wrote:Reaper is very stable lol...
Reaper's been running constantly on my workstation with an open project 24/7 since I last posted in this thread, hehe

But yeah, I do give a lot of credit to the underlying hardware and its drivers too, though. It's a very carefully chosen configuration, and the RME HDSPe AIO is just amazingly solid. That's an important factor in anecdotes like this, and gives this particular setup an edge right from get go, for example. It also might be the reason why Live 8 functions so robustly on the system as well, as it's often been cited as a flaky version of Live, I don't know. It does crash on me a couple of times a year, though (two times this year, just checked the crashlog directory), and every one of those crashes that I do remember from the recent years has been a One Synth Challenge synth crumbling under stress and giving it a hard time ... Reaper I still haven't seen crash on this system ever.

as has been Cubase, Wavelab and VEP + 2 remotes on mine..

fluffy_little_something · Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:27 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Yeah, leaving ASIO driver in unusable state is actually the driver's fault, not Reaper's... A well-written ASIO driver wouldn't do that.

I use Reaper with ASIO4ALL, works like a charm

Guenon · Post by **Guenon** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:38 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:as has been Cubase, Wavelab and VEP + 2 remotes on mine..

It's great using a reliable rig.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:43 pm

Guenon wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:as has been Cubase, Wavelab and VEP + 2 remotes on mine..

It's great using a reliable rig.

true dat

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:25 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:
Apratim wrote:the startup logo in the back ground is of reaper 4 not 5 get the latest version and run it and see weather it is still un sable if it is then it has something to do with your drivers or something like that
That's a google image just to make my contrary point the previous poster made in saying it's very stable. An illustration of what I've seen regularly over the years.

Nonsense. It IS very stable, nobody is claiming that it's PERFECTLY stable. Nobody is saying that it never crashes. All software has bugs, but you can quantify that and say that some software is more buggy than others.

All of this discussion about statistics is beside the point. As I mentioned earlier, it's not science, however, neither is any assertion that bias drives the observation of stability among users of multiple DAWs who find Reaper to the most stable.

Further, you're inventing/imagining reasons to support your own bias that have zero basis in evidence. I LOLed at your projection relating to leaving a DAW running.

I do this regularly and often it's just because I'm too lazy to close the project. Live, Cubase, and Reason do not often (enough) survive a sleep cycle for whatever reason. Reaper generally does. I also often leave Reaper running over several days specifically to capture audio over several days time. Not everyone has this use case, for sure, but don't assume that nobody does.

But let's be clear, I'm not talking about once. I probably leave my DAW open with a project three times a week or more. On any given computer there may be a DAW open with a project. Because of experience, I'm more concerned about this with my other DAWs than I am with Reaper.

Sg1122 · Post by **Sg1122** » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:56 pm

Cubase 8.5 likes to give me the crash on exit it doesn't happen often but when it does it happens in the most annoying times like changing preferences and it doesn't save so I have to do it over again

Polarized opinions about Reaper