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BMoore wrote:1st prize - Making yourself look like a jackass.

You had no competition.
Fantastic... I'm a 'Jackass Trophy Winner' :party: :hyper: :lol:
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THE INTRANCER wrote:
Guenon wrote:
THE INTRANCER wrote:Reaper is very stable lol...
Reaper's been running constantly on my workstation with an open project 24/7 since I last posted in this thread, hehe :)
That tells me that you're scared to shut it down for fear that your project is corrupted when you re-open it. Sound on Sound magazine have even reported of this issue in 2015 where songs have been corrupted, and even written a how to help you try and recover it. I run over 300 plugin's in Studio One 3 and never ran into any problems with any plugin's corrupting my work..

Here's the article here about corrupted projects, in Reaper.. https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... t-recovery
LMAO did you actually READ the article you linked to ? :lol: The article does not report any REAPER issue, it explains what you can do when a project is corrupted by a faulty plugin. When saving REAPER writes in the project file segments of data that correspond to each plugin parameters. The article explains how REAPER allows you to reload a project that crashes a plugin because that very plugin gave REAPER incorrect parameters data to write and that it cannot subsequently re-read. And thus corrupted the project.
So the article makes the EXACT contrary of your point: REAPER allows you to reread projects that were corrupted by a buggy plugin by excluding the reading of plugin parameters, in a very similar way windows can start in "safe mode". That way one can then isolate the buggy plugin when reloading the project the next time. The article then goes on to explain the sandboxing modes that aMused mentionned above that further enhances stability in the face of a plugin misbehaving.
That's all there is to it, and given you have concluded that REAPER is unstable when the article explains the exact opposite, you obviously have understood nothing about the article you've posted. :clap:

So now, if you have seen such crashes over the years, I can safely repeat what I've said before:
1) you used a buggy plugin
2) and/or you used a buggy device driver
But you didn't bother to try to understand what was happening and you're now incriminating the DAW.
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Only Chuck Norris can crash Reaper.

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chk071 wrote:Only Chuck Norris can crash Reaper.
Hmmm. So is this a contest? Because I can crash anything! (And frequently do) I always laugh when people tell me the reason they buy Apple products is because you can't crash them. Though I guess they don't say that as much anymore.

Now I want to try Reaper! LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol: :dog:

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I just started using Reaper again for the first time in years. I've picked up some kontakt libraries and real instrument emulations that require a lot of MIDI control and live recording, so my regular DAW Renoise was not a good choice. Reaper works perfectly for what I need it to do right now. At some point I'll have to find a good workflow to use Renoise and Reaper together though since Renoise is fantastic at working with samples and step sequencing. Every DAW has it's own strengths and weaknesses.

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I used to be the Mac tech in a QA company before OS X came out, and I can guarantee Mac OS has always crashed, the thing was it was easier to fix and isolate the cause or even reinstall the OS vs Windows, particularly 98se and earlier which were a Pita. But anyway
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Hated reaper from the moment loads of f**king idiots started spamming it on the Ableton forum few years ago.

Would rather make music with an abacus.

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samsam wrote:
Would rather make music with an abacus.
There you go;

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:hihi:

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I'm a long time Logic and Cubase-user. Now I've tried to do some songs in
reaper. And yes: Reaper may be an amazing DAW - but it's difficult to
tame this beast!

At first i was searching for the midi-tracks, the audio-tacks, the group
tracks in Reaper. But I couldn't find any! Reaper hat only one type of
tracks, which is: A track!

And everything is an "item". Reaper consists of "itemology"! In
Cubase there are different terms and definitions, but in Reaper everything
is the same: It is an "item"!

And in Reaper there are infinite long menus - and you can change the
setting so that your mouse-middle-wheel double click on the edge of any
item in the media-manager-matrix does colorize the 51st item counted
from the selection-cursor line. Waoooh!

So Reaper is pretty mysterious. :ud:
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I still think “Linux of daws” is the best way to think of Reaper. It can be endlessly tweaked to get what you want which is great for some people and a waste of time and bother to others. One difference to Linux I guess is that a lot of the reaper functionality comes from the unpaid labour of users, like linux, but unlike Linux the reaper devs get paid while the others don’t.

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woggle wrote:I still think “Linux of daws” is the best way to think of Reaper.
Heh, in a way this is exactly a parallel to what made me like it so much, yeah. I've described the experience as a "hacker vibe" before, and it's the sort of power I value. The way I could shape it into a custom workflow and after that work very efficiently and reliably.

It's more like an analogy than an actual comparison, but the malleability and reliability of Linux has been the combo that has made it such an ubiquitous system it is these days. The "getting paid" part isn't as clear cut as you mention, though: plenty of Linux devs do it for a living.

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Guenon wrote:
woggle wrote:I still think “Linux of daws” is the best way to think of Reaper.
The "getting paid" part isn't as clear cut as you mention, though: plenty of Linux devs do it for a living.
It’s something I saw someone talk about years ago, I guess the equivalent I was thinking of was that Linux is normally free and devs make money in supporting or extending that distro , whereas reaper costs money and people make nothing from support and extensions as far as the reaper company is concerned.

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woggle wrote:I guess the equivalent I was thinking of was that Linux is normally free and devs make money in supporting or extending that distro , whereas reaper costs money and people make nothing from support and extensions as far as the reaper company is concerned.
Ah, yeah, I see what you mean. But yep, in the end the projects are of such a different nature, this is more like a parallel and a "vibe thing" than directly comparable. Linux variants being the most used OS family on the planet and all :) ... Mostly because its kernel can be adapted in so different variants so powerfully in this manner. So Linux variants are the most common systems in the world on mobile devices, servers and supercomputers etc... I think it wasn't long ago when it was pointed out that every single one of the world's top 500 supercomputers are now on Linux, heh.

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woggle wrote:whereas reaper costs money and people make nothing from support and extensions as far as the reaper company is concerned.
Well, people doing extensions and scripts almost always have a Donate button somewhere, I'm sure it gets clicked from time to time...

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