KVR Audio

lolilol1975 · Post by **lolilol1975** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:07 pm

That sounds like an evidence to most of us, but it needed to be repeated. (Especially when some teachers in some production schools still don't get it.)

Sean Divine has a great channel. Just wanted to share.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:31 pm

nvmnd

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:38 pm

Who said you needed a daw to be productive ?... There's people out there that only use hardware mixers, hardware synths and digital hardware audio recorders for their needs and abandoned traditional PC / Mac computer based Daws.

I own several hardware synthesizers in my studio.

Here's an alternative to a typical computer based daw.
https://www.gear4music.com/Recording-an ... Mixer/1AMA

solomute · Post by **solomute** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:19 pm

The best one is samplitude. It's beoynd any competition. Best latency, fast gui response, best sound. All the rest are just childish and not as flexible. And finally mix the wavs of tracks in mixbus32 as an option to have more hard sound if you need it. Samplitude gives transparent soft sound.

solomute · Post by **solomute** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:35 pm

I would not invest a penny into hardwave synthesizers or hardware effects. It's waste of money imo. Invest into microphone like u87 + good preamp + good sound card + good monitors and headphones and into samplitude daw. As for synths you can get good emulations like flintlock, sythescience juno-106, sq8l and etc which are almost exact copies of hardware ones. And they are free...
The only advantage of hw synths is that you record their sound via microphone in a room but what prevents you from recording software synth via a mic? Nothing. You will get exactly the same result.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:41 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:Who said you needed a daw to be productive ?...

No one. So your arguments are moot. Again.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:10 pm

solomute;

It sounds like you're young and new to music production. Me..over 25 years experience in computer music software, and music production hardware since acquiring my first synth, a Casio SK1 Sampling Keyboard back in 1986...although I was hammering my dad's electronic organ back in the late 1970's, such was the desire to make a sound.

As good as software is these days, there will always be hardware, and if you're not using an external keyboard synthesizer for instance which you can use with or without a computer, you're really missing out on the diversity and creative magic it can bring to what you create, that a midi controller with out a synth engine doesn't. I utilise my external synthesizers in my music, more so now than I've ever done before, both for the create features like arpeggiators as well as the sounds. It's helped me in a big way for filmscoring, it helps save CPU processing also.. besides being fun, and inspiring.

Pictus · Post by **Pictus** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:28 pm

Excellent DAW comparative at
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:52 pm

@solomute

take it easy, "The best DAW is the one that makes you the most productive"

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:52 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:Who said you needed a daw to be productive ?... There's people out there that only use hardware mixers, hardware synths and digital hardware audio recorders for their needs and abandoned traditional PC / Mac computer based Daws.

I own several hardware synthesizers in my studio.

Here's an alternative to a typical computer based daw.
https://www.gear4music.com/Recording-an ... Mixer/1AMA

That Roland digitally records audio and offers tools to work/edit... so it is a DAW

The OP did not say only computer based DAW is included.

Lots of people using computer based DAW's record hardware synths... also guitars and dozens of other instruments... plus the human voice. Lots of audio sources outside the computer.

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:57 pm

^^^ +1 both ones are quite good >

lolilol1975 · Post by **lolilol1975** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:52 am

solomute wrote:The best one is samplitude. It's beoynd any competition. Best latency, fast gui response, best sound. All the rest are just childish and not as flexible. And finally mix the wavs of tracks in mixbus32 as an option to have more hard sound if you need it. Samplitude gives transparent soft sound.

After reading this post plus your signature

Mixbus is best sounding in my opinion nowadays. Second is Digital performer 9.5 and third is samplitude. To have studio like sound I recommend creating parts in samplitude, export them to wavs and then import to mixbus for mixing. This is the only way.

we can confidently write off your posts as "useless" and "uninformed".

lolilol1975 · Post by **lolilol1975** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:10 am

Pictus wrote:Excellent DAW comparative at
https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html

Indeed, it looks pretty good. I'm just surprised that Reaper has a 9 on update frequency while Cubase has a 10. Reaper has a new update every 3 weeks. Is Cubase updated as frequently ? I thought it was every 6 months only.
Also a few of major categories are missing: notation editor, and compatibility with the different types of plugins (VST, VST2, VST3, AAX, etc).

Apart from that, don't forget that you can change the weight for each section according to what matters to you. For instance, I put 0% to "Authorization prefer dongle" and 40% to "Authorization dislike dongle" (because who loves dongles, really ?).

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:02 am

solomute wrote:I would not invest a penny into hardwave synthesizers or hardware effects....
The only advantage of hw synths is that you record their sound via microphone in a room

<cough>

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:16 am

solomute wrote:I would not invest a penny into hardwave synthesizers or hardware effects. It's waste of money imo. Invest into microphone like u87 + good preamp + good sound card + good monitors and headphones and into samplitude daw. As for synths you can get good emulations like flintlock, sythescience juno-106, sq8l and etc which are almost exact copies of hardware ones. And they are free...
The only advantage of hw synths is that you record their sound via microphone in a room but what prevents you from recording software synth via a mic? Nothing. You will get exactly the same result.

You clearly know little about recording. Nobody uses microphones to record hardware synths ...