KVR Audio

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:21 pm

swatwork wrote: You can find some info on the EQ response curves here.

Thanks this confirmes the asymmetric behaviour.
Are these typical response curves of vintage consoles or is there another reason why you've choosen an asymmetric response?

heavymetalmixer · Post by **heavymetalmixer** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:58 am

Question: How does the compressor work internally? I mean, what % of the gain reduction is done when the attack time is complete, and how much gain goes back up after the release time?

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:22 am

Question (DD Comp):
The gain reduction seems to be dependant on the attack time.
For longer attack times there is less final gain reduction.

Is this intended?

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:49 am

I mean, what % of the gain reduction is done when the attack time is complete

In this example: Final gain reduction = -10.8, gain reduction @24ms -6.1 dB.

soulone82 · Post by **soulone82** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:49 am

Chris-S wrote:Question (DD Comp):
The gain reduction seems to be dependant on the attack time.
For longer attack times there is less final gain reduction.

Is this intended?

That´s how compressors work.

heavymetalmixer · Post by **heavymetalmixer** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:21 pm

Chris-S wrote:
I mean, what % of the gain reduction is done when the attack time is complete
In this example: Final gain reduction = -10.8, gain reduction @24ms -6.1 dB.

So, it's like 56~57% after attack, thanks.

Now, what about the "gain recovery" after release?

Turello · Post by **Turello** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:37 pm

Channel 2 (with SmackLabs Logic Channel) have replaced a lot of payware Channel Strips in my setup... So, for example, on vocals, kick, snare and bass i usually put SSL, McDSP etc... Others instruments/channel with these two CS... Very low on CPU and usefull/effective...

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:08 pm

soulone82 wrote:That´s how compressors work.

No, my stock DAW compressor (reacomp) does not show this behaviour.

soulone82 · Post by **soulone82** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:21 pm

Chris-S wrote:
soulone82 wrote:That´s how compressors work.
No, my stock DAW compressor (reacomp) does not show this behaviour.

Of course it does:

heavymetalmixer · Post by **heavymetalmixer** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:30 pm

Off course every compressor dooes, the faster the attack the more of the transient it reduces, and the transients are the highest amplitude parts of a sound.

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:23 pm

I was talking about the final gain reduction.

So, the gain reduction that is eventually reached when the compressor is feed with a constant tone.

swatwork · Post by **swatwork** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:36 pm

Chris-S wrote:I was talking about the final gain reduction.

So, the gain reduction that is eventually reached when the compressor is feed with a constant tone.

But a constant tone is not a constant amplitude - it's a waveform that constantly crosses the threshold set in the compressor. Each time it does it triggers the attack or release phases and the gain reduction goes up or down accordingly. The longer the attack time, the smaller the change in gain reduction before the release phase kicks in, and the lower the overall gain reduction will be.

Because the test tone repeats at the same amplitude on each cycle the gain reduction will appear to reach a constant value as it moves between the two phases. This is not the 'final' gain reduction level but an equilibrium between the attack and release phases as they alternate between the signal rising and falling over the threshold.

Psync · Post by **Psync** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:40 pm

swatwork wrote: Finally, this release marks the end of the development phase for these plugins; I've no plans to add any new features or additional plugins. From now on it's bug fixes only.

...so there's absolutely no chance, not in a million years, that there will ever be a mono version?

I'm very greatful for your bundle and all your efforts. Especially for your adding the latency free Channel2 on our request.

Unfortunately, in my live audio project I realized I needed an even less cpu consuming channel strip for all my mono channels. I understood (correct me if wrong) that your plugins are all stereo-only, hence the question.

Kind regards,

Psync

heavymetalmixer · Post by **heavymetalmixer** » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:34 pm

Psync wrote:
swatwork wrote: Finally, this release marks the end of the development phase for these plugins; I've no plans to add any new features or additional plugins. From now on it's bug fixes only.
...so there's absolutely no chance, not in a million years, that there will ever be a mono version?

I'm very greatful for your bundle and all your efforts. Especially for your adding the latency free Channel2 on our request.

Unfortunately, in my live audio project I realized I needed an even less cpu consuming channel strip for all my mono channels. I understood (correct me if wrong) that your plugins are all stereo-only, hence the question.

Kind regards,

Psync

I'm not sure about all the DD plugins being Stereo or Mono, but Channel 2 specifically has a "Mono Mix" button at the right bottom, maybe that could help you (not in Channel 1 for some reason).

Psync · Post by **Psync** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:09 pm

Thanks,

I thought I had already tried that, checked again. Processing just left, right or a mono mix didn't bring down cpu usage on my system.

The 'mono mix', etc options are from the DD utility plugin. They were inserted in Channel2 instead of the limiter unit that was left out to get rid of the latency of the original Channel plugin...

Kind regards,

Psync

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