don't forget the is MAGIX and it's all about the Benjamins : )fmr wrote:For start, they have to make it 64-bit. And they could fuse Sound Forge and Spectralayers in a single application, full 64-bit, for example (it makes more sense, IMO, than integrate Sound Forge in Samplitude).inkwarp wrote:regarding soundforge, i cannot imagine what they could add to it with a new version..? My own guess is that it will get integrated into Sam/Sequoia...thecontrolcentre wrote:I ditched Acid Pro for Live a long time ago ... no interest in going back to it.
Acid Pro 8 Confirmed for 2018 Release
- KVRian
- 977 posts since 16 Jan, 2012 from UK
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Richard deHove Richard deHove https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=376689
- KVRist
- 395 posts since 23 Mar, 2016
The SoundForge days of Acid were fantastic, but as soon as Sony bought it the decline began. MIDI implementation was a disaster and Sony refused to communicate anything to users. AP7 was a huge disappointment and there it has stayed, unchanged, for close on eight years. As others have pointed out, for Magix to even catch up to the competition now would take a gargantuan leap.
The early days of Soundforge were incredible. AcidPro was the reason I began shifting from hardware synths to PC.
The early days of Soundforge were incredible. AcidPro was the reason I began shifting from hardware synths to PC.
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- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
I switched from using an Atari STe to PC because of AcidPro. Its a shame the midi was such a mess. It was a truly revolutionary program at one time.Richard deHove wrote: The early days of Soundforge were incredible. AcidPro was the reason I began shifting from hardware synths to PC.
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- KVRAF
- 2307 posts since 27 Jan, 2011
A lot of the SoundForge-era greatness of Acid (ease of use, loop-handling etc) seems to have migrated with one of the developers, Dan Godlstein, to Mixcraft ( I say after a few weeks using it)Richard deHove wrote:The SoundForge days of Acid were fantastic, but as soon as Sony bought it the decline began. MIDI implementation was a disaster and Sony refused to communicate anything to users. AP7 was a huge disappointment and there it has stayed, unchanged, for close on eight years. As others have pointed out, for Magix to even catch up to the competition now would take a gargantuan leap.
The early days of Soundforge were incredible. AcidPro was the reason I began shifting from hardware synths to PC.
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- KVRAF
- 2765 posts since 15 Feb, 2017 from a worn out vinyl groove
I think you mean Sonic FoundryRichard deHove wrote:The SoundForge days of Acid were fantastic, but as soon as Sony bought it the decline began. MIDI implementation was a disaster and Sony refused to communicate anything to users. AP7 was a huge disappointment and there it has stayed, unchanged, for close on eight years. As others have pointed out, for Magix to even catch up to the competition now would take a gargantuan leap.
The early days of Soundforge were incredible. AcidPro was the reason I began shifting from hardware synths to PC.
Sony and customer service... I can hear them saying WTF is customer service and spending their time and money hunting YouTubers posting their copyright material>>> oh yes, that is customer service
Vegas was also an innovative product>> kinda Acid on Video or is that video on Acid?
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- KVRAF
- 3043 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
I bought Acid when it was Sonic Foundry. Later Sony managed things, but development was poor.
I've sold Acid and bought Reaper. IMHO Magix can't make current Acid Pro better than Reaper, the gap is too much between them.
And the Beatmapper is just a tiny thing - you can get same result with other tools in other daws - it's just timestretching.
I've sold Acid and bought Reaper. IMHO Magix can't make current Acid Pro better than Reaper, the gap is too much between them.
And the Beatmapper is just a tiny thing - you can get same result with other tools in other daws - it's just timestretching.
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Karl the Hermit Karl the Hermit https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203618
- KVRist
- 105 posts since 21 Mar, 2009 from West Pennsyltucky, USA
Ahhh, them were the days...
Bought my first copy of Acid off the shelf in '03 or '04. After I left my band and decided to go it alone (they didn't make music I felt inspired to sing over), I ran into a Polish gent on the south side of town. He took sections of some of my scratch ideas, added in some distorted git-fiddle, and pieced it together inside of Acid 3.0. Suffice it to say... MIND BLOWN.
I played with it for awhile until I realized playing with audio bits wasn't enabling me to get the songs out of my head. At that point, I went with something that handled midi better than Acid 3.0... yup, bought my first copy of Frooty Loops 2.0 off the shelf.
Acid should just call it quits. It's naught more than an old brand name tarnished by Sony. I can't see how they can make Acid manipulate loops any better than Ableton at this point in the game. And Acid was never much of a midi-monster either, so...
Bought my first copy of Acid off the shelf in '03 or '04. After I left my band and decided to go it alone (they didn't make music I felt inspired to sing over), I ran into a Polish gent on the south side of town. He took sections of some of my scratch ideas, added in some distorted git-fiddle, and pieced it together inside of Acid 3.0. Suffice it to say... MIND BLOWN.
I played with it for awhile until I realized playing with audio bits wasn't enabling me to get the songs out of my head. At that point, I went with something that handled midi better than Acid 3.0... yup, bought my first copy of Frooty Loops 2.0 off the shelf.
Acid should just call it quits. It's naught more than an old brand name tarnished by Sony. I can't see how they can make Acid manipulate loops any better than Ableton at this point in the game. And Acid was never much of a midi-monster either, so...
- KVRian
- 977 posts since 16 Jan, 2012 from UK
just curious, is mixcraft worth looking at?A lot of the SoundForge-era greatness of Acid (ease of use, loop-handling etc) seems to have migrated with one of the developers, Dan Godlstein, to Mixcraft ( I say after a few weeks using it)
it's one of those apps i don't know anyone who uses it.
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- KVRist
- 482 posts since 30 Apr, 2008 from St Louis, MO
Just got an ACID 8 wishlist opinion survey from Magix, listed for Spring 2018 release.
Hopefully upgrade pricing will be reasonable ... but they didn't ask that question.
Had a screenshot of proposed GUI (sorry didn't snap it), but looked ACID + more traditional DAW mixer.
I've used ACID on and off since it was Sonic Foundry, but in recent years primarily as a super fast way to play a few drum loops while composing. Not really for production. In the past (eg 2007), I exported a few beat loops to import into Cubase. That's not a reflection on it's power, just my use (I do the same with Live and FLStudio ... I'm a linear thinking Cubase user).
As far as these Magix (Sony/Sonic Foundry) products, I mainly was a Sound Forge user for editing samples.
Hopefully upgrade pricing will be reasonable ... but they didn't ask that question.
Had a screenshot of proposed GUI (sorry didn't snap it), but looked ACID + more traditional DAW mixer.
I've used ACID on and off since it was Sonic Foundry, but in recent years primarily as a super fast way to play a few drum loops while composing. Not really for production. In the past (eg 2007), I exported a few beat loops to import into Cubase. That's not a reflection on it's power, just my use (I do the same with Live and FLStudio ... I'm a linear thinking Cubase user).
As far as these Magix (Sony/Sonic Foundry) products, I mainly was a Sound Forge user for editing samples.
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- KVRist
- 52 posts since 13 Dec, 2017
I have done (and still doin' it) alot of megamixes aka mixtapes in ACID 7.0, and i think the Beatmapper is the fastest way to find out a BPM of the song. Also, you can "store" that info, so everytime you open a song in ACID, it will be synced with the current master tempo of the project. Also, timestretch algorhythm is excellent even today (Elastique Pro one). Yes, i know that other daws can do it to, but not as fast and intuitive as ACID, IMO.tooneba wrote:I remember people was saying Beatmapper useful. Some daws can't still do this.
Also, if you're doin' a mixtape or any kind of long audio file, you can easyly create tempo/key/signature change markers by selecting shift+T, and you can adjust bpm's in 3 decimals count (.000).
In my opinion, MAGIX don't have to do much here, except for maybe make a x64 version of it, also x64 plugins support, and maybe make an updated GUI.
Fun fact: if you have never seen it, there is a legendary Computer Music masterclass form Rusko (dubstep producer at the time, not sure what's he into these days) on YouTube, it's amazing and funny on so many levels, and he's using ACID for this "tutorial". I suggest you check it out here -
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Spencer Maddox Spencer Maddox https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=406543
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 814 posts since 19 Oct, 2017 from The Empire State
Anyone got a Screenshot from whatever Email Kevin63101 got?
Really Curious to see this proposed GUI.
I thought Being a Magix customer I would get one but to no avail. Probably they just sent them to acid users, Makes sense I suppose.
Really Curious to see this proposed GUI.
I thought Being a Magix customer I would get one but to no avail. Probably they just sent them to acid users, Makes sense I suppose.
The post above this is likely bait, viewer discretion is advised.
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- KVRist
- 482 posts since 30 Apr, 2008 from St Louis, MO
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
I don't see the logic in Magix taking Acid, isn't this a direct conflict with their other daw Samplitude, or is the game up for Samplitude in terms of development now ? I remember the days of Acid, but I'm not sure if bringing this out 10 years after where most people had moved on to pastures new that it's really going to capture that now older user base.
The proposed screenshot, looks a bit tacky with icons on the track and mixer presented the way they are, other area's are passible. Reminds me of a bit like Photoshop and Studio One mixed together in some ways strangely.
The proposed screenshot, looks a bit tacky with icons on the track and mixer presented the way they are, other area's are passible. Reminds me of a bit like Photoshop and Studio One mixed together in some ways strangely.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
so you haven't tried Samplitude
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- KVRAF
- 7872 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
THE INTRANCER wrote: I remember the days of Acid, but I'm not sure if bringing this out 10 years after where most people had moved on to pastures new that it's really going to capture that now older user base.
I'll buy it for sure and most likely will become my main DAW again.
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