Roland JV-1080 finally, as virtual instrument!

[djanthonyw]

Autosampling away.

[DuX]

Well, Roland has finally decided to join the VSTi world. Impressive. About time. It took them only like 15 years to realise they should do it.

I wonder what were their CEOs thinking? "It's just a fad, it'll pass"? All whilst Korg made a really nice and very successful VSTis that I love. All of them are still extremely useful and sound great.

Anyway, what I actually wanted to say is: this is really huge! And I almost bought a JV-1080 just a couple of months ago... with a Vintage Expansion. The reason being I don't own any Roland ROMplers currently and I've always found them rather inspiring and sounding great in their own right. Jupiter-4 and D-10 were my first real synths... [after Yamaha PSS-680 kid's crap]

Thank you Ingonator and Beely for posting really interesting things. You're the only reason I went through this thread all the way from page one.

[sinemotor]

So the VST has 22 FXs that are not in the XV. The XV has 35 that aren't in the VST. Both have 55 FXs in common...

Good luck beely. Looks like a real puzzle.

Now I wonder why Roland chose to add Fantom's MFX in the plugin instead of the ones in the XV.

[gentleclockdivider]

So the VST has 22 FXs that are not in the XV. The XV has 35 that aren't in the VST. Both have 55 FXs in common...

Good luck beely. Looks like a real puzzle.

Now I wonder why Roland chose to add Fantom's MFX in the plugin instead of the ones in the XV.

The integra has even fewer effects , 67 in total ( missing the super filter , and a bunch of others ).
Limited pitch shift algo's ( only 1 ) and no global effects

[Frantz]

Autosampling away.

Why? Is the plan to grab the presets you like and cancel the cloud subscription?

[fmr]

So the VST has 22 FXs that are not in the XV. The XV has 35 that aren't in the VST. Both have 55 FXs in common...

Good luck beely. Looks like a real puzzle.

Now I wonder why Roland chose to add Fantom's MFX in the plugin instead of the ones in the XV.

The integra has even fewer effects , 67 in total ( missing the super filter , and a bunch of others ).
Limited pitch shift algo's ( only 1 ) and no global effects

Roland always did some questionable and difficult to understand options with their launchings

[djanthonyw]

Autosampling away.

Why? Is the plan to grab the presets you like and cancel the cloud subscription?

Free trial, so no cancelation necessary.

I refuse pay via subscription. I'd buy it if they offered a perpetual license though.

[robotmonkey]

Don't think the most of the presets are so great that I would bother sampling. It's mostly regular variety of rompler stuff.

This synth has mostly value in programming your own patches or modifying the existing ones.

[EvilDragon]

I'd buy it if they offered a perpetual license though.

They do, after 12 months of subscription you can get one plugin forever.

[robotmonkey]

I'd buy it if they offered a perpetual license though.

They do, after 12 months of subscription you can get one plugin forever.

It's still going to be cloud only in a sense that it needs constant internet connection and all the cloud trash.

[GeorgK]

The license now needs to be validated only once in a week (they changed that recently).
So, no need for "constant internet connection".

G.

[beely]

Ok, I've been having a survey of the FX settings between the XV-5080 presets and the plugin.

Looking at the first four banks on the XV-5080, which are the same (with some minor changes) between the 5080 and the plugin:-

PA-A 4 out of 128 patches use FX "missing" in the plugin
PA-B 4 out of 128 patches use FX "missing" in the plugin
PA-C 6 out of 128 patches use FX "missing" in the plugin
PA-D 8 out of 128 patches use FX "missing" in the plugin

Looking at those same patches in the plugin, we can see that the following FX substitutions have been made:

MFX 7 XV -> MFX 8 plugin
MFX 5 XV -> MFX 2 plugin
MFX 23 XV -> MFX 61 plugin
MFX 38 XV -> MFX 46 plugin

So these algorithms, despite having different numbers and/or names, are still the same algorithms, or do the same job. I expect there will be more of these MFX substitutions, which I can figure out on a case by case basis.

The remainder of the preset patch banks on the XV-5080 check out as follows:

PR-E 8 out of 128 patches use FX "missing" in the plugin
PR-F 4 out of 128 patches use FX "missing" in the plugin
PR-G 39 out of 128 patches use FX "missing" in the plugin
USER 26 out of 128 patches use FX "missing" in the plugin

Many of these patches are the same MFX substitutions noted above (so they will work fine in the plugin), but there are other MFX used as well. I expect most will be able to make the conversion without too many sound differences, but there may be a few patches where it's not possible to sound the same in the plugin. In the conversion, I'll do my best to substitute the MFX to keep things sounding as intended, but where it's not possible (should that be the case) then there will be a warning for the affected patches saying something like "Patch XX MFX cannot be recreated in the plugin - may sound different" or something similar.

In any case, there should be a decent number of extra XV-5080 patches that should work in the plugin, even if a small handful don't sound the same, to make the job worthwhile.

I alo have a Fantom preset bank for the XV-5080, which I haven't assessed for FX yet - and there likely shouldn't be any problem with the MFX with the original JV-1080 sysex files...

[fmr]

OK guys. Here are the links to download the banks I collected from the net, so far. Several are already converted for the JV-1080, while there are others that come from the JV-80 (many, surprisingly - seems the JV-80 was also very popular) and they are converted already, but I'm not sure of for the JV-1090 or for the Fantom-X. There si also a collection from the XV-3080 (although I presume that one will not differ much from the one of the XV-5080 that beely already have).

There may be some dups, although I tried to organize them and avoid that.

EDIT: I aggregated the different files per instrument, so that it makes less downloads, making things easier that way. They are small, anyway. Here are the new links:

Roland JV-80 converted to Fantom-X
Several Roland JV-1080 collections
Several Roland XP-50 collections
Roland XV-3080 ROMs A to F

[beely]

That's great, cheers Fernando...
Will download and take a look!

In response to the earlier conversation about Performance mode I took another look at what the XV-5080 offers here.

There are only two preset Performance banks, A and B, of 32 entries each. Bank A are all multitimbral sequencing templates, not very inspiring. Bank B is better - again, there are quite a few splits, but no really inspirational sounds, a few are ok.

The XV factory user bank (programmed for the 5080 directly) though fares better - there are 64 Performances here, and these sounds are in general much better and more inspirational. If I get time I may look at transferring these across to equivalent DAW-specific setups (eg, Logic layered Patches, Ableton Live racks etc) using multiple instances of the plugin to recreate them.

But that's a little way down my list of priorities, so we'll see...

[lotus2035]

Well, Roland has finally decided to join the VSTi world. Impressive. About time. It took them only like 15 years to realise they should do it.

Ironically, their plugins look like they were coded 15 years ago.