KVR Audio

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:00 pm

Nice tip, ta.

Bubblo · Post by **Bubblo** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:08 pm

Dont buy a IBM/Hitachi....

You have been warned

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:28 pm

Thanks for your warning. How about you post some substantiated facts next time. About current models.

And for the record, my 40Gb Deskstar's are still working perfectly; in fact one of them is about to be migrated into its third home.

Bubblo · Post by **Bubblo** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:18 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:Thanks for your warning. How about you post some substantiated facts next time. About current models.

And for the record, my 40Gb Deskstar's are still working perfectly; in fact one of them is about to be migrated into its third home.

For the record my Deskstar 40Gb lasted for about 1 year same thing with my Deskstar 60 GB. There is your facts. Don't know much about the new models but why take a unnecessary risk.

Druu · Post by **Druu** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:30 pm

If you have the cabbage, take a look a Glyph's drives. They specialize in audio use, are rock solid and are used in a whole lot of pro studios. Big $$$ compared to Seagate, Maxtor, etc. though...

Druu
www.druu.net

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:39 pm

Glyph dont manufacture drives.

Druu · Post by **Druu** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:39 pm

Whyterabbyt, what are you talking about???

"Glyph Technologies builds digital storage solutions specifically for audio and video production environments. Our complete line includes FireWire, SCSI, and Fibre Channel products, used all over the world by professional and project studios alike."

If you can afford 'em, these are the drives to get. You can find them at www.glyphtech.com.

Druu
www.druu.net

speed771 · Post by **speed771** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:59 pm

Druu, you don't understand. Glyph doesn't built drives. They build storage solutions.

That means they buy drives from other manufacturers and put them in a Glyph external box with powersupply and controller if needed.
If you have a good knowledge about selecting the right components you can do the same that Glyph does for half the money.

Druu · Post by **Druu** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:21 pm

No, I understand that Glyph puts together solutions using various components. That doesn't change my original tip that if one has the cabbage, Glyph drives are well worth a look-see.

I do question the notion that it's easy to put the same quality package together by picking up components at the local Fry's Electronics or other computer outfit. I don't want to start an argument over the issue. Everything is possible, but my point is that hunting, tweaking, assembling and tweaking some more to save some dough is counter-productive if we want to spend our time creating music. Glyph makes top-notch goodies and has a customer list that shows it. If it was easy to do what they do for half the price, they wouldn't be in business.

Ok, ok... I'm done. There are my 2 cents.

Cheers!!

Druu
www.druu.net

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:24 pm

Druu wrote:If it was easy to do what they do for half the price, they wouldn't be in business.

They will as long as there are people who believe their ad depts fantasies.

basic channel · Post by **basic channel** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:13 pm

I still got 20 & 30 GB IBM Deathstars in my Giga PC - 4 years old and never a blip.

Got WD 80 + 120 GB SE Caviars 8 MB cache in main DAW - also flawless & fast.

Just about to replace one with a Caviar Fluid 250 GB drive

BC

speed771 · Post by **speed771** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:09 am

I do question the notion that it's easy to put the same quality package together by picking up components at the local Fry's Electronics or other computer outfit.

That's not what I said. I said you have to have a good knowledge to do it. But it also depends how fast your storage system really has to be. I mean for most of us an average IDE HD will do these days. It's really not to difficult.
I work in a pro environment and my PC is loaded with 3 ATA133 IDE drives and 2 external FireWire LaCie. Never had a problem. Speed was also never an issue.

But I don't work with 64 audio tracks or something like that. It really depends what you need.
I also still work at 44.1kHz which eases the load considerably....

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:56 am

Druu quoth Whyterabbyt, what are you talking about???

I was talking about the fact that Glyph dont manufacture hard drives, they make boxes and put someone else's drives in them. Now you say you know that, but your original post presented it as though Glyph made the actual drives themselves.

I dont know why you should be surprised at someone clarifying that point, nor do I understand why your response to someone correcting an ambiguous point of yours is to behave as though you dont understand what they're talking about, even although you later claim you do.

xander · Post by **xander** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:25 am

It's kind of like 'Buffalo Drives' (Japanese company). I bought one here - a Buffalo 120GB USB outboard - but when I loaded the drivers for it, I found out that inside the case it's really a Samsung SpinForce, which actually made me happier, 'cause the Samsungs are way-good HDDs (imho).

I actually just got it because one of my internal drives - a Maxtor 40GB that I use for data-only access - is starting to whine like the brake drums on a 1959 Greyhound Bus - which is another example of "what it says on the outside is not necessarily on the inside", since a 'Greyhound Bus' is actually a 'Detroit Diesel' engine with a custom chassis. This is just one of many examples of..... OK I shut me up now...

DuX · Post by **DuX** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:04 am

Buy Seagate 80GB 7200.7, 8MB cache, serial ATA or ATA, they are the quietest, fastest and very reliable, only one platter, that's great! If you need a bigger HD, buy same Seagate but 160GB... I assemble quiet and reliable computers, I should know

. Don't even bother with other HD's. btw, don't bother with RAID setup also, except if you plan on buying a decent controller card or using on board Intel's ICH5 or ICH6 RAID and even then, it's better to setup a system on one HD and page file and data on the other, not to mention more reliable and such setup always uses less CPU which is highly appropriate for a music workstation don't you think?

I'm sorry to drop in so abruptly, but I saw the thread and couldn't help but answer the guy immediately without even reading the thread. I can't help it, I like to help. It's my life.

now I've read the thread and I haven't seen you mentioned any of these, but they should be very easy to find, man... and stay away from 120GB drives, they're rebadged 160GB.

I didn't have any problems with Western Digital's, too, but that's another topic. Seagate is very good - for now. In my experience, situation on the HD market changes every few years.

Cheers all.

which hard drive to buy?