http://vstbuzz.com/deals/65-off-galaxy-x-best-service/
has anyone got this ?
cannot find a decent video with sound examples...even best service's videos are just some dude talking about it instead of playing actual presets
Best Service Galaxy X "convolution Synth" for 95 bux worth it ?
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- Waaaaahhh
- Topic Starter
- 2224 posts since 30 Jul, 2001 from montreal, quebec,canada
If your plugin is a Synth-edit/synth-maker creation, Say So.
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 1562 posts since 13 Jan, 2014
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- Waaaaahhh
- Topic Starter
- 2224 posts since 30 Jul, 2001 from montreal, quebec,canada
not the same
i'm asking for users
that thread is about selling and buying and deals
i'm asking for users
that thread is about selling and buying and deals
If your plugin is a Synth-edit/synth-maker creation, Say So.
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
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- Waaaaahhh
- Topic Starter
- 2224 posts since 30 Jul, 2001 from montreal, quebec,canada
checked out the demo song(soundcloud)
the sounds is very shrill...rather unpleasant though might be because of poor Mixing..i dunno
Nothing convincing in all those
the sounds is very shrill...rather unpleasant though might be because of poor Mixing..i dunno
Nothing convincing in all those
If your plugin is a Synth-edit/synth-maker creation, Say So.
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.
https://soundcloud.com/realmarco
...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
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- KVRAF
- 2000 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR
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- KVRian
- 667 posts since 27 Jul, 2010
Just got the VSTBuzz email promoting this.
After browsing through a bunch of vids on youtube.. decided against it.
They market it like it's some sort of revolutionary sample splicing/manipulation tool:
"In the audio world, Convolution is the process of multiplying two signals together or folding one audio file over the other one. The result is a hybrid of the two original sounds, introducing a whole new world of sound creations."
In other words.. a mixer.
I guess because stacking sounds and adding some basic effects is so complicated.. they had to make this (even more complicated) VST to do it for you.
I was hoping for something more like an FM styled, sample A modifies sample B, and creates a totally new, different and variable waveform/sample C.. kind of thing.
Nope.. it's a freaking sample mixer. If someone owns this and can verify it is actually more complicated, feel free to correct me.. but all indications are that this is the actual reality of it.
Also.. if you google around, the FREE Best Service ENGINE 2 seems to be an issue with a lot of folks. From the installation confusion to the authorization and easy to max out installation limits.
So, yeah.. had to pass.
After browsing through a bunch of vids on youtube.. decided against it.
They market it like it's some sort of revolutionary sample splicing/manipulation tool:
"In the audio world, Convolution is the process of multiplying two signals together or folding one audio file over the other one. The result is a hybrid of the two original sounds, introducing a whole new world of sound creations."
In other words.. a mixer.
I guess because stacking sounds and adding some basic effects is so complicated.. they had to make this (even more complicated) VST to do it for you.
I was hoping for something more like an FM styled, sample A modifies sample B, and creates a totally new, different and variable waveform/sample C.. kind of thing.
Nope.. it's a freaking sample mixer. If someone owns this and can verify it is actually more complicated, feel free to correct me.. but all indications are that this is the actual reality of it.
Also.. if you google around, the FREE Best Service ENGINE 2 seems to be an issue with a lot of folks. From the installation confusion to the authorization and easy to max out installation limits.
So, yeah.. had to pass.
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- KVRAF
- 9577 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
So its not convolving one sound with another just layering?
Amazon: why not use an alternative
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- KVRian
- 1177 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
I have just demoed it..I have to agree with progtronic...it's not really cross synthesis or morphing, it feels like simply mixing layers.
But I did demo Titan at the same time...nice
But I did demo Titan at the same time...nice
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- KVRAF
- 2000 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR
FYI, the demo is included in the Engine demo, for those like me who didn't get that at first:)
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- KVRian
- 667 posts since 27 Jul, 2010
Also.. if you're like me, and already own Komplete.. Absynth is basically Galaxy X on steroids.
So you're covered (minus the Galaxy X's raw samples).
So you're covered (minus the Galaxy X's raw samples).
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- KVRian
- 636 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
depends what you're looking for....it's basically a sample collection of sounds run through a collection of exotic impulse responses. You can do this yourself with an IR reverb and exotic impulses. Anybody that delves into exotic IRs can tell you, it is very difficult to predict what sounds and what impulses will give you something musical, resulting in a ton of trial and error. I believe what they are selling is that they have done some of the trial and error for you....the presets are combinations that they know have value, especially with origami parameters mapped to the mod wheel. They should have made a vst version and allowed the tool to use your own "xfiles" collection though....unnecessary restriction.....but I think they wanted to stop people from starting with their personal content and then hastily coming to the conclusion that this thing is crap, due to the trial and error aspect.
There are manuals online
I wouldn't compare to absynth though....absynth does granular and wave-morphing with samples, not convolving as far as I know....in my experience, resynthesis of samples, whether additive, granular, or spectral,....don't sound like convolving at all
There are manuals online
I wouldn't compare to absynth though....absynth does granular and wave-morphing with samples, not convolving as far as I know....in my experience, resynthesis of samples, whether additive, granular, or spectral,....don't sound like convolving at all
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRian
- 667 posts since 27 Jul, 2010
I guess my point was.. you can layer a few samples together, and run them through some effects.. and achieve a similar result (with a lot more options in between).bermudagold wrote: I wouldn't compare to absynth though....absynth does granular and wave-morphing with samples, not convolving as far as I know....in my experience, resynthesis of samples, whether additive, granular, or spectral,....don't sound like convolving at all
ie: source; sample layers > fx; pipe, multicomb, multitap, echoes, resonators
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- KVRian
- 636 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
no doubt....absynth almost seems underrated in terms of power and possibilities...especially considering its age
I find resynthesis methods and/or particular implementations all have or leave a particular sonic fingerprint....depends what timbre flavors you like the taste of....If you like the sound of convolving, absynth may not get you there.
I find resynthesis methods and/or particular implementations all have or leave a particular sonic fingerprint....depends what timbre flavors you like the taste of....If you like the sound of convolving, absynth may not get you there.
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRAF
- 8828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
The only other convolution synth I have seen (not tested) so far is BT Phobos.
That looks much more interesting to me, but is 3 times more expensive. Best Service is known for sample packs. They want to sell more of that for sure.
No word about the size of those xfiles. Classic convolution asks for exponatialy more resources with impulse response length. And if you can't load your own responses, its not that interesting unless you are a preset junkie anyway.
But the size of the library might be worth the prize alone...
I did like the demo sounds...
That looks much more interesting to me, but is 3 times more expensive. Best Service is known for sample packs. They want to sell more of that for sure.
No word about the size of those xfiles. Classic convolution asks for exponatialy more resources with impulse response length. And if you can't load your own responses, its not that interesting unless you are a preset junkie anyway.
But the size of the library might be worth the prize alone...
I did like the demo sounds...
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- KVRian
- 628 posts since 18 May, 2010
A few notes:
- Convolution is not mixing. Convolution sees one source as a enormous multi-tap delay, with one tap per sample, and applies that to the other source. It's how convolution reverb works: you record a very sharp attack sound in a hall, and copy the resulting reverb to each sample in the input.
- Convolution is not exponential when you use FFT, so there's no need to worry about the size of the impulse responses.
- Convolution is not mixing. Convolution sees one source as a enormous multi-tap delay, with one tap per sample, and applies that to the other source. It's how convolution reverb works: you record a very sharp attack sound in a hall, and copy the resulting reverb to each sample in the input.
- Convolution is not exponential when you use FFT, so there's no need to worry about the size of the impulse responses.
