Polarized opinions about Reaper

[jancivil]

To me people complain about Reaper cause it makes their beloved DAW a useless junk.

Perfectly illustrating why this thread exists.

Tell me a DAW capable of freezing UA plugin and recall it at anytime?

I couldn't care less.

[jancivil]

there is no reason that a well designed DAW cannot offer all the functionality of Reaper ...
Reaper's strengths [snip]
the quantising and grid settings are not restricted to a few basic tuplets (often so basic in other programs that you can't even program Chopin!)

I only know Cubase and Logic. I have not really composed in Logic, however I know that there is a neat workaround (no time to explain) for nesting tuplets, which once applied you can keep going.
Cubase, I found this one recently by accident; you can select and specify the tuplet in 'setup' and then apply it to any of the defaults, such as triplets. So you can have pentuplet triplets, ie., 5:3:2.
EDIT: didn't say that right, ran out of time. That amounts to a pentuplet on each one of a triplet.
IE: "1/8 triplet 5-let" selected means the grid is 15 to one 8th. The primary grid remains 16ths as per Cubase basic ways.

Not ideal but it's not nothing. The problem we run into is the bar line [where the value doesn't fit the time sig], of course.

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[CrystalWizard]

Everyone has different requirements but for me I just open Reaper and start using it. I've never customized Reaper to do anything. Can someone actually list what is so difficult for them other than cosmetic or just simply watching a YT video that shows them how something works slightly differently than other daws? Yes this is a can of worms and I apologize in advance but alot of the complaints I read are people not taking a few minutes out of their day to learn new software.

This. Seems to sum it up. It seems to me that most people who don't like Reaper do not want to RTFM. At least one post basically says this ( i haven't read every post yet.) Which is fine, but don't make it out that Reaper is just so complex and unintuitive. No DAW is so simple.

I use Reaper and i use Ableton Live but when someone asks me what DAW should i use i always answer " use the one you already know how to use." And if you're just starting take a look at Reaper.

[zerocrossing]

For me it’s probably that I’m just an old dog that can’t learn Reaper’s new tricks. More accurately, I don’t want to. I’ve worked in studios since 1983. I got my first DAW (Studio Vision Pro) in 1992. So, to me, if the basic functionality of your DAW requires me to read a lot of manuals, I’m going to pass unless there’s some amazing payoff at the end, and while probably being very good and versatile. I don’t see a big payoff. I recently switched from Live to Bitwig and I’ve barely had to crack the manual and I’m finding new functionality all the time. They just set it up in a way that’s intuitive for me. Reaper is the opposite of that.

[robledo]

The problem with Reaper are its fans. You Reaper creepers are forum cancer. Enjoy your meme DAW.. others purchased other DAWs, others prefer other DAWs.

[CrystalWizard]

For me it’s probably that I’m just an old dog that can’t learn Reaper’s new tricks. More accurately, I don’t want to. I’ve worked in studios since 1983. I got my first DAW (Studio Vision Pro) in 1992. So, to me, if the basic functionality of your DAW requires me to read a lot of manuals, I’m going to pass unless there’s some amazing payoff at the end, and while probably being very good and versatile. I don’t see a big payoff. I recently switched from Live to Bitwig and I’ve barely had to crack the manual and I’m finding new functionality all the time. They just set it up in a way that’s intuitive for me. Reaper is the opposite of that.

Well, yeah that's exactly what i meant, if you have something working than stick with it. As for evolving from Ableton to Bitwig as i understand it they sorta share the same DNA. Do you think a change to Cubase or Logic (or whatever) would be as easy?
I've not had to read a ton of manual to get Reaper running but a small bit, yeah. Of course i've read a bunch of Ableton manual and years ago i read the manual to Reason. I'd say that perhaps Reaper needs a small bit of rtfm in the beginning, maybe more than some other DAWs, maybe. The payoff of using Reaper has been very rewarding for me, especially as a recording medium and also for mixing these recordings. I use Ableton for creating my stuff but Reaper for recording various ensembles i play in. My opinion might be different if i was using Reaper to "compose" on.
It's totally a 'whatever works for you situation." IMO

[kmonkey]

To me people complain about Reaper cause it makes their beloved DAW a useless junk. Tell me a DAW capable of freezing UA plugin and recall it at anytime? Just for that feature I can't live without REAPER and time after time as time goes by it is becoming my mixing DAW. About automation,
https://giphy.com/gifs/l0HUcEbM18WIwUWIM/fullscreen

Well Reaper did not made any other DAW useless junk in my arsenal. And i am complaining in a positive way (read my response). So basically you are saying that i installed Reaper and i now complain about it because every other DAW is useless after that? Why would i complain then? Doesn't make any sense. I guess you where joking.

Anyway i am responding to your Automation gif. That is precisely what i mean. I still can't grasp what you did and i don't i really don't want to look at some list with hundreds of parameters and pinpoint something.

What i expected from Reaper is i press record/play, i tweak parameter on effect and it should create some automation lane with that very same parameter - for me. From there i can find my way. Cubase can do it. Live, FL Studio does it. Reaper does not. So basically i came from mentioned apps - all of them have more or less standardized writing of an automation. All of them have some sort of "reveal last tweaked automation parameter" or "automate this" or something along the lines. Reaper not (maybe it's there i guess it is but i could not find it...there i just tried again...open Reaper, add FX, press record and tweak...nope not happening here.). I close it and wait better day to learn it.

[CrystalWizard]

To me people complain about Reaper cause it makes their beloved DAW a useless junk. Tell me a DAW capable of freezing UA plugin and recall it at anytime? Just for that feature I can't live without REAPER and time after time as time goes by it is becoming my mixing DAW. About automation,
https://giphy.com/gifs/l0HUcEbM18WIwUWIM/fullscreen

Ignore the troll.

[rod_zero]

Reaper developers are not UI experts, they have not invested a dime on UI, and it shows. It lacks paradigms, coherence, and accessibility. It lacks focus and direction, it is a big mess of menus, context menus, and 100 icons.

If you can deal with a total lack of UI design go for it. For others is just a lot of time to waste.

And I love reading manuals, I printed reaper's once, what a waste of paper.

[keyman_sam]

Well, happy new year to y'all.

6 years into Reaper and I was still customizing it to get it to work the way I wanted, still only going "oh so close but not yet, just one more..". It is definitely feature packed, no comparison there. But the menu and overall UX clusterf*ck got to me.

Cubase was a refreshingly different experience. I'll give performance to Reaper, yes. And Cubase does have its bugs, but overall it is consistent and I can't remember the last time I had to customize a damn thing there. Open Cubase, hit record, done. I'm still on an older version so I can't render in place, etc. But I'm far less pulling my hair out on it than I did with Reaper.

For purely audio editing though, Reaper just feels snappier. I'll stick with Cubase or upgrade it. I left the cockos train a while back and never regretted it. I'm sure Justin, schwa, olie, whiterabbit and the other folks are killing it as usual.

[fVk.kVr]

Reaper not (maybe it's there i guess it is but i could not find it...there i just tried again...open Reaper, add FX, press record and tweak...nope not happening here.).

It's not made for monkeys.

[DrFolder]

For me it’s probably that I’m just an old dog that can’t learn Reaper’s new tricks. More accurately, I don’t want to. I’ve worked in studios since 1983. I got my first DAW (Studio Vision Pro) in 1992. So, to me, if the basic functionality of your DAW requires me to read a lot of manuals, I’m going to pass unless there’s some amazing payoff at the end, and while probably being very good and versatile. I don’t see a big payoff. I recently switched from Live to Bitwig and I’ve barely had to crack the manual and I’m finding new functionality all the time. They just set it up in a way that’s intuitive for me. Reaper is the opposite of that.

You don't need to read "a lot of manuals". I watched a youtube video about the latest automation changes and a video on stretch markers years ago, Everything is straight forward to me. What are you trying to do that requires reading a lot of manuals for?

[Apratim]

f**king hell

this thread has turned into a reaper vs other daw thread

just stop it .........

[DrFolder]

Isn't the title "polarized opinions about Reaper"?. Personally I just want to know why it's being made out to be really complicated and difficult because I find it easier than most.

[Apratim]

if they really want the opinion why it is then here you go

some people like total modular structure eg reaktor
i dig it some do
and reaper is also as much modular as reaktor does
i dig it too and so do some

some people like a fixed audio-path/components like massive
some people dig it i don't
and other daws are also fixed in audio-path/components as massive does
so i don't dig it other do

thats why polarized opinions