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Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:20 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Incidentally though - is there any way to install High Sierra without having to install the new file system? (which is evidently broken)
i've read there is, but i don't know how because i don't have a system with an Apple SSD on it and i didn't make a note of the procedure.
Oh is it only for SSD's? - I'd be OK if so

That's my understanding, though it CAN be put on regular hard drives. i'm not sure what the default is when you have a mechanical hard drive. There was a problem where the hybrid drives were converted to APFS when they weren't supported, but i think that issue was dealt with. You should do more research than the crappy info i'm giving you if you're going to go to High Sierra

sprnva · Post by **sprnva** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:22 pm

Yeah if High Sierra doesn't detect a SSD it will use HFS+ as usual.

Sierra has been running fine here for a while now. I have High Sierra on my laptop so I can keep tabs on it but won't be upgrading the DAW machine to it any time soon as it will mean losing Logic 9 and I don't want to do that just yet.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:23 pm

I just looked it up - I had read that it converted drives automatically and you can't opt not to but I see now that is just for all SSD based systems - that's a relief as it means it is still an option.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:40 pm

I've been using High Sierra for a while now.

The one thing that made me regret updating when I did is that with u-he plugins under High Sierra presets are no longer alphabetical because of some difference with the new file system.

Two plugins have been updated so presets are fine now, but it will be a while before the rest get updated one by one. Maybe by middle 2018.

Besides that, HS has been fine for me.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:48 pm

Where's the PC version ?

Oh here it is..., it doesn't look too shabby considering where it is now...

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:05 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:Where's the PC version ?

Oh here it is..., it doesn't look too shabby considering where it is now...

Haha! Good times

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:05 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:Where's the PC version ?

Oh here it is..., it doesn't look too shabby considering where it is now...

I miss how fast the screen changes were for Logic on windows.

parma · Post by **parma** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:11 pm

Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:15 pm

parma wrote:Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.

NVM

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:30 pm

parma wrote:Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.

Send a complaint to Tim Cook. tcook@apple.com

i actually did. i expect nothing, but i just can't stand Apple's behavior over the last five years.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:53 pm

parma wrote:Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.

10.11 is three years old.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:56 pm

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Yup! That is the way to do it. Download, but don't install. Then you'll always have it in your store account.

No you don't. Have you checked your account lately? Go there and look for Sierra.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:59 pm

fmr wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Yup! That is the way to do it. Download, but don't install. Then you'll always have it in your store account.
No you don't. Have you checked your account lately? Go there and check for Sierra.

Correct. i forgot to respond to that one earlier. Good catch.

i downloaded Sierra from the direct link offered earlier in this thread and wrote it to a dual layer DVD (an archive hard drive works too; anywhere i can put it back on a running Mac OS). Just in case...

EDIT: Also, if developers stop selling an app on all of the App Stores, even if you already "own" it, you will not be able to re-download it again as needed in future. App backups are also no longer made on iTunes (apparently due to delta updates; no full version exists, or something). This whole "it will be available forever" idea is a myth... and yes, Apple helped establish the myth when it marketed app stores at us. i'm not sure how Steam deals with these issues, but i'm not willing to trust any corporate entity, especially in the computer industry where data availability and software is as reliable as a politician's claims.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:35 am

Bloody Apple! I swore that once I couldn't update beyond El Cap, that I'd hold fast. LPX is very quick and stable for me with El Cap. Apple just made me an offer I can't refuse, at least lightly. Swines.

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:41 am

New App > New OS > New Computer > Repeat >

Logic Pro v10.4 is out