KVR Audio

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:51 am

Yeah, I know. Took me a while to catch on. Sometimes, I am a bit naive and too trusting. This iMac set me back €3,300. I can't afford to do that again anytime soon.

parma · Post by **parma** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:59 am

teilo wrote:
parma wrote:Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.
10.11 is three years old.

Sure, but then there was Sierra and High Sierra. Three OSs in three years seems a bit much. Who wants to mess around with compatibility issues that often. Also - it wouldn't be as bad if 10.12 and 10.13 weren't artificially non-specced for older machines. Maybe I'll try to install Sierra on my ancient yet sufficient 2008 Mac Pro. I know it can be done in a roundabout way.

Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:08 am

nvm
(What Apple Support told me on the phone turned out to be untrue in reality. Again.)

5Lives · Post by **5Lives** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:12 am

Amazing update. Avid also brought some much desired features to Pro Tools. Two fantastic DAWs. No updates from Presonus surprisingly.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:19 am

parma wrote:
teilo wrote:
parma wrote:Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.
10.11 is three years old.
Sure, but then there was Sierra and High Sierra. Three OSs in three years seems a bit much. Who wants to mess around with compatibility issues that often.

Then upgrade every 2-3 years... you do not have to do it annually

parma · Post by **parma** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:24 am

pdxindy wrote:
parma wrote:
teilo wrote:
parma wrote:Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.
10.11 is three years old.
Sure, but then there was Sierra and High Sierra. Three OSs in three years seems a bit much. Who wants to mess around with compatibility issues that often.
Then upgrade every 2-3 years... you do not have to do it annually

You missed the part where I'm using a machine that is artificially prohibited from using the latest OS. I know, I know - it's ancient. But it works for my needs and can absolutely run Sierra/High Sierra if it were allowed to.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:29 am

I can't seem to update the User Manual, although Instruments updated. Hmmmm.

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:40 am

parma wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
parma wrote:
teilo wrote:
parma wrote:Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.
10.11 is three years old.
Sure, but then there was Sierra and High Sierra. Three OSs in three years seems a bit much. Who wants to mess around with compatibility issues that often.
Then upgrade every 2-3 years... you do not have to do it annually
You missed the part where I'm using a machine that is artificially prohibited from using the latest OS. I know, I know - it's ancient. But it works for my needs and can absolutely run Sierra/High Sierra if it were allowed to.

Hackintosh. Or a used mini from 2012 on.

I agree, this constant upgrade of the OS is way more about revenue than it is ringing in the future.

All that said, I'm way more impressed with this LPX update than a lot of the others I've seen recently. Life is good all around though.

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:42 am

updated to 10.12.6 seems fine. took me about 30 minutes of trial and error to find the terminal hack to kill the notification center and remove its icon from the menu bar after the update brought it back from previously being nuked..

otherwise so far so good. logic plug in updates are flat flat flat as we know.. strange to see in some cases. the camel audio plugs translate weirdly to that gui style but will get used to it.. the new reverb seems a straight up rip off of fabfilter reverb.. but it sounds pretty nice and works well.. easy to change models etc..

i guess i'm good for now until they break compatibility w/10.12... maybe by then i won't care about updating anymore

parma · Post by **parma** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:55 am

jonljacobi wrote:
Hackintosh. Or a used mini from 2012 on.

Yeah, I'm probably going to start looking at used. I would like to quit Apple just out of principal but I'm so comfortable with OSX.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:04 am

parma wrote:
teilo wrote:
parma wrote:Not supporting 10.11 is a load of crap. I'm sick of new OS's every other month.
10.11 is three years old.
Sure, but then there was Sierra and High Sierra. Three OSs in three years seems a bit much.

It's way too much.

parma wrote:Who wants to mess around with compatibility issues that often.

Not me; i can't afford to buy new gear every time some company stops updating drivers for new Mac OS versions (or just abandons their product overall). This is WHY i'm still on Snow Leopard and Logic 9.x

parma wrote:Also - it wouldn't be as bad if 10.12 and 10.13 weren't artificially non-specced for older machines.

Exactly.

parma wrote:Maybe I'll try to install Sierra on my ancient yet sufficient 2008 Mac Pro. I know it can be done in a roundabout way.

Please post more info on this. i've considered it for my MacBook Pro 5,5, which was left behind by Sierra (despite a lesser-specced MacBook being supported).

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:06 am

jonljacobi wrote:Hackintosh. Or a used mini from 2012 on.

i'd rather quit computers altogether than go back to PC builds. It's just voodoo. Add in an unsupported OS to the mix? Worse voodoo.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:07 am

pdxindy wrote:Then upgrade every 2-3 years... you do not have to do it annually

You can afford to replace your computing devices every three years? i can't.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:25 am

parma wrote:10.12 and 10.13 weren't artificially non-specced for older machines. Maybe I'll try to install Sierra on my ancient yet sufficient 2008 Mac Pro. I know it can be done in a roundabout way.

I'm using 10.12(.6) on a 2011 MBP. Have used it on a 2010 machine. I wouldn't hold out much hope for the 2008 models.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:27 am

unless you can update teh firmware like so:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7690077

Logic Pro v10.4 is out