Logic Pro v10.4 is out

[festeringheap]

Here is a pretty good idea of how the new horn section works, although he seemed to have trouble with a couple of articulations. Amazing. Realistic, imo.

And FREEEEE!

Looks great.

However, I am having a problem replicating something in this vid. Help!

Around the 15:00 mark, he starts to use individual instruments after using the Chicago section.

His MIDI clips for the solo instruments have Articulation dropdown. Mine don't. Is there a setting somewhere that I have to check off to get this feature? (I did have the Articulation dropdown for Chicago)

For clarification, I mean the dropdown when you work in the Midi region, as opposed to the actual plugin.

Thanks!

[pdxindy]

Can you "upgrade" the iMac? You can't. Yet, with a Windows machine, you can exchange the MoBo and the CPU, and you are up and running, with a "new" machine.

YOU can exchange the MoBo and CPU. I don't know how to do that and don't want to know how to do that. I have zero interest to spend my time figuring out which parts are compatible with which other parts.

When I have had Macs in the past that could be upgraded, I never did anyway. I don't care that the iMac cannot be upgraded. Doesn't matter to me.

I like Macs cause there just isn't much to think about. I don't care about computers at all. They are useful tools, but the computer itself I want to be as invisible as possible. Apple is excellent for that.

Just cause you favor a certain set of priorities does not mean everyone does. Apple does a great job making productive machines for getting stuff done. They also provide solid productive software either free or at 'great deal' prices... like Logic.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

The horns and strings aren't half bad. By that I mean, pretty decent. Okay, pretty darn nice so far.

As to switching to Live, or Bitwig. Live is what it says it is, best for Live performance. Or sound creation. Bitwig is about two years from being mature but is extremely fun to play with if you like that Eurorack modular stuff. Live costs $600 configured as Logic. Bitwig $300. Neither are as configurable/tailorable as Logic.

And you'll find just as many people complaining about stuff as you will with Logic. Actually, more. Witness 7 years of requests for comping in Live. I'm guessing that if you were into live or sound creation, you'd already have one or the other. For straight up recording and production, neither can touch Logic. It's not even close. Start talking Cubase or Pro Tools for that.

I understand frustration with Apple. Especially with all the arrogance involved, but I don't think you're going to find the grass any greener.

Reaper is far more configurable and powerfull that Logic and don't need to buy an underspeced, overpriced mac. No need to updtae to 10.12, Reaper runs on 10.5 OS.
But Reaper don't pay stupid famous people for adverstising.

How do the horns and strings sound in Reaper? How much cpu is Alchemy 2 consuming?

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

You guys really show why Apple manages to keep selling underspec'd and overpriced machines.

You mean I could buy a more powerful Windows machine for less money than my Mac? Where were you 11 years ago?

[chk071]

But Reaper don't pay stupid famous people for adverstising.

True, they don't even need to, when Reaper fans are trying to evangelize non-believers wherever they can anyway.

[fmr]

You guys really show why Apple manages to keep selling underspec'd and overpriced machines.

You mean I could buy a more powerful Windows machine for less money than my Mac? Where were you 11 years ago?

You have an 11 years old Mac? And you can run Logic 10.4 on it? FANTASTIC

[Bodhisan]

You guys really show why Apple manages to keep selling underspec'd and overpriced machines.

You mean I could buy a more powerful Windows machine for less money than my Mac? Where were you 11 years ago?

Trying to warn your parents not to have children...

[Enkerli]

I tried messing about with Sculpture yesterday. Sounds pretty good with certain patches, but tweaking it is a nightmare. Small UI and lots of non-standard settings. I really hope they will turn their attention to reskinning Sculpture and Ultrabeat soon. While at it, they should probably make more of a general purpose modmatrix for Sculpture. Personally I would hope they make it look similar to Alchemy in general visual style. No fancy rounded shapes and so forth like they have in all the old logic plugins.

Fair point. Been playing with Sculpture in MainStage, especially with my Eigenharp Pico. It’s a very deep instrument, like most physical modelling ones. And it affords some rethinking in terms of both UX and UI. The thinking which went behind the articulation support could lead to something interesting, here. For one thing, the skeuomorphic design makes little sense in this case since it models so many different instruments. Something closer to the Silverwood ensemble in Reaktor might work. Since different dimensions of a physical model have complex interactions with one another, it’s important to clarify all the parameters used. It’s not like switching from wood to metal simply changes a filter. There’s something deeper going on.

[Bombadil]

Here is a pretty good idea of how the new horn section works, although he seemed to have trouble with a couple of articulations. Amazing. Realistic, imo.

And FREEEEE!

Looks great.

However, I am having a problem replicating something in this vid. Help!

Around the 15:00 mark, he starts to use individual instruments after using the Chicago section.

His MIDI clips for the solo instruments have Articulation dropdown. Mine don't. Is there a setting somewhere that I have to check off to get this feature? (I did have the Articulation dropdown for Chicago)

For clarification, I mean the dropdown when you work in the Midi region, as opposed to the actual plugin.

Thanks!

Yeah, that one made me scratch my head, as well. I haven't tried the solo instruments yet. When I tried to load the brass instrument from the instruments list, there was no articulation menu. You have to go in via the library. I assume that the solo instruments must be accessed the same way. Otherwise, I have no idea, and I guess we'll have to wait for the user's manual, or more tutorial vids. Or, just mess about with it until we get lucky.

[tremolounge]

Aaaaaarrrghh!! Logic Remote for iOS requires iOS 11!!!!

That's a bummer but I'm still rockin' my iPhone 4S.

Yeah, the version of Logic Remote I have on my old iPad 3 (iOS 9) seems to work with LPX 10.4. Haven't run it through the wringer yet, but basic functions are OK.

When I went to download LR onto my iPhone 5 (iOS 10), I got the message saying the latest version isn't compatible; would I like to download the last compatible version? I did, and again, it seems to be working.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

You guys really show why Apple manages to keep selling underspec'd and overpriced machines.

You mean I could buy a more powerful Windows machine for less money than my Mac? Where were you 11 years ago?

You have an 11 years old Mac? And you can run Logic 10.4 on it? FANTASTIC

Perhaps you might point out where I said I was still running an 11-year old Mac.

[Enkerli]

Aaaaaarrrghh!! Logic Remote for iOS requires iOS 11!!!!

That's a bummer but I'm still rockin' my iPhone 4S.

Yeah, the version of Logic Remote I have on my old iPad 3 (iOS 9) seems to work with LPX 10.4. Haven't run it through the wringer yet, but basic functions are OK.

When I went to download LR onto my iPhone 5 (iOS 10), I got the message saying the latest version isn't compatible; would I like to download the last compatible version? I did, and again, it seems to be working.

Haven’t tried it but it sounds likely that there’s now some incompatibility with MainStage. When they updated Logic Pro X, last year, it took a while for Logic Remote to work with MainStage. (Hoping MainStage gets the Studio Horns soon. Could be really powerful for live play.)

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

You guys really show why Apple manages to keep selling underspec'd and overpriced machines.

You mean I could buy a more powerful Windows machine for less money than my Mac? Where were you 11 years ago?

Trying to warn your parents not to have children...

Despite my feeling that I would be much happier had I never existed, my parents (dog love'em) never regretted having me. Children and parents often disagree like that

Anyway, f**k Off!

[jonljacobi]

The horns and strings aren't half bad. By that I mean, pretty decent. Okay, pretty darn nice so far.

As to switching to Live, or Bitwig. Live is what it says it is, best for Live performance. Or sound creation. Bitwig is about two years from being mature but is extremely fun to play with if you like that Eurorack modular stuff. Live costs $600 configured as Logic. Bitwig $300. Neither are as configurable/tailorable as Logic.

And you'll find just as many people complaining about stuff as you will with Logic. Actually, more. Witness 7 years of requests for comping in Live. I'm guessing that if you were into live or sound creation, you'd already have one or the other. For straight up recording and production, neither can touch Logic. It's not even close. Start talking Cubase or Pro Tools for that.

I understand frustration with Apple. Especially with all the arrogance involved, but I don't think you're going to find the grass any greener.

Reaper is far more configurable and powerfull that Logic and don't need to buy an underspeced, overpriced mac. No need to updtae to 10.12, Reaper runs on 10.5 OS.
But Reaper don't pay stupid famous people for adverstising.

If you like Reaper, then use it. It is a bargain. I've tried it a half dozen times. Not my cup of tea. I couldn't care less about ads and I don't think they influence anyone else here either.

[fmr]

You guys really show why Apple manages to keep selling underspec'd and overpriced machines.

You mean I could buy a more powerful Windows machine for less money than my Mac? Where were you 11 years ago?

You have an 11 years old Mac? And you can run Logic 10.4 on it? FANTASTIC

Perhaps you might point out where I said I was still running an 11-year old Mac.

Why would you need me 11 years ago, if not to prevent you from buying the Mac, then?

Anyway, jokes apart, I am a Mac user for around 30 years now, and a Windows user for almost as many. That doesn't prevent me of thinking that current Macs are underspec'd and overpriced. And I also agree that Logic is one of the best DAWs around, and a real bargain.

I have no problem in acknowledge that. I am a Logic user since version 2.0 (Windows was still 1.9 then).

But that doesn't make me like Apple or Apple way of doing business. And to also think that what Apple doesn't charge in software charges double on the hardware.