Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

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DuX wrote: How about implementing absolutely nothing more and just get rid of all the bugs? :hihi:

Now that would be innovative. :tu:
What bugs?
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Elektronisch wrote:
v1o wrote:Lay off the crack pipe. The additional features that we have already such as the delay and reverb are things that improve the original concept without going completely batshit overboard with it. They enhance The Legend without killing the spirit of the original Model D Mini Moog. With all the extra features being requested this synth will end up not sounding like a Moog anymore and lose its original direction.

Like Rich said earlier in the thread part of the Legend was keeping all the features and controls within the ranges of the original hardware. Once you start changing or expanding things it begins to sound like a totally different synth. The improvements from the original that we already have go far enough whilst maintaining the spirit of the original.
Well talking about original hardware, rerelease of original moog by moog had 1 LFO :)
Nothing beats a vintage model. The reissue will always pale in the shadow of the original.

Someone may have to model the reissue model then. Maybe a switch on the back for the 2016 Model with LFO.
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DuX wrote: How about implementing absolutely nothing more and just get rid of all the bugs? :hihi:

Now that would be innovative. :tu:
What bugs ? :?

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AnX wrote:What bugs?

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I was just talking generally, because show me a software without any bugs and you get a beer from me. :hihi:
However, the Legend seems to be so far incredibly well programmed piece of software and they are doing exactly what has to be done - implement not too many additional features, keep it bloat-free and keep it stable. Unlike heaps of other developers...
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Well, developers have to develop something. Either they expand their existing products or they make something new.
So, finally add wavetable and granular synthesis and then leave the Legend alone :hihi:
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DuX wrote:I was just talking generally, because show me a software without any bugs and you get a beer from me. :hihi:
Show me a bug in The Legend and I'll buy you a beer. :P

I was joking about the 16 note poly because I don't think that will happen but I wonder how much work it is to add voices ? Is it just copy/paste the code for a single voice x number of times ? Or is it much more involved than that ? I don't write code so have no idea. The option to go from 1 to 4 or 8 or 16 voices would put a smile on my face. It might be a bit rough on the CPU but would allow lush high poly pads to be part of The Legend's repertoire. I don't think that was the intended purpose of Legend so I can understand the reluctance to bump the poly (or to add any of the feature requests made by users since release).

I wouldn't be too heartbroken if Legend was considered a finished product (after these latest Midi CC requests) and have Synapse work on Dune 3 or something new. :hyper:
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fluffy_little_something wrote:Well, developers have to develop something. Either they expand their existing products or they make something new.
So, finally add wavetable and granular synthesis and then leave the Legend alone :hihi:
Absolutely. Well said. Shouldn't forget FM, either. :lol:

Oh and regarding poly... that would be awesome! 4 or 8 polyphonic mode for some incredibly awesome and full pads. :razz:

Even though I really like my sounds mono, legato and sometimes unison. But just thinking of a poly MM clone made me drool.
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Teksonik wrote: Show me a bug in The Legend and I'll buy you a beer. :P
Midi-Linking the first slider of my M-AUDIO Axiom keyboard to a knob in Legend does not work any more, because CC74 seems to be reserved for MPE now.
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DuX wrote:Oh and regarding poly... that would be awesome! 4 or 8 polyphonic mode for some incredibly awesome and full pads. :razz:

Even though I really like my sounds mono, legato and sometimes unison. But just thinking of a poly MM clone made me drool.
Legend has already 4 voices of polyphonies, so drool like a fool
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Chris-S wrote:
Teksonik wrote: Show me a bug in The Legend and I'll buy you a beer. :P
Midi-Linking the first slider of my M-AUDIO Axiom keyboard to a knob in Legend does not work any more, because CC74 seems to be reserved for MPE now.
Can't you redefine that first slider to send some other CC on Axiom?

This is not a bug as it's per MPE specification.
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Chris-S wrote:
Teksonik wrote: Show me a bug in The Legend and I'll buy you a beer. :P
Midi-Linking the first slider of my M-AUDIO Axiom keyboard to a knob in Legend does not work any more, because CC74 seems to be reserved for MPE now.
Thats not a bug... that is a feature. ... for MPE that is!! :lol:

When looking through my Legend manual there seems to be lots of cc#s that is unused that could be assigned for future controllers... one thought though is a custom midi map control could be a solution for this dilemma... I know Blue3 has this as I suggested it to the developer during beta testing and he implemented one and that has been working great!! 8)
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EvilDragon wrote:This is not a bug as it's per MPE specification.
So, MPE (which came 20 years after Midi) invalidates some Midi-Specs?
Yes, I could redefine the settings on the controller, but then all my other plugs are affected.
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Yes, MPE reserves CC 74 as one of expression axes ("timbre control", IIRC). It doesn't invalidate MIDI, it just uses parts of its spec for its own thing.
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EvilDragon wrote:Yes, MPE reserves CC 74 as one of expression axes ("timbre control", IIRC). It doesn't invalidate MIDI, it just uses parts of its spec for its own thing.
In regular MIDI CC74 is for 'Brightness', which made it kind of the 'traditional' CC for Cutoff.

(KORG synths, Arturia synths, many others.)

This makes 74 one of the more important ones, so its kinda strange that they would use exactly this CC when there are so many that dont already have a specific function like Brightness pre-associated with them.

(Unless of course 'timbre control' is their lingo for Brightness/Cutoff, in which case 74 would be the right choice.)

Anyway...just wondering.
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Yeah I'm not sure if they call it "timbre control", but I do think the association to Brightness->Cutoff is why they took that one.
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