Tranzistow/Diodow

[Guenon]

The developer doesn't even seem to be interested in spreading the news about his plugins, I had never heard of them before, frankly.

Yeah exactly, neither had I. Had gone completely unnoticed by me before. So, nice to have this thread here

[chk071]

But, he should not be surprised about people sharing their opinions on this stuff then.

He hasn't said anywhere he's surprised about people sharing their opinions on this stuff . What has been said multiple times in this thread is, it's perfectly okay if you don't like what he has coded. That's the essence of as-is, even. What I have wanted to point out is, it doesn't make it a "shit attitude" if he doesn't then try to please the ones who hold that opinion of the software. People enjoy different things, and are interested in using different stuff. That's okay, and this was made available for those (and only those) who might enjoy stuff specifically like this.

Sure. In my case, it would simply make me not use the plugin. No blame from my side, especially with so many plugins, commercially or free available anyway.

[Guenon]

Sure. In my case, it would simply make me not use the plugin. No blame from my side, especially with so many plugins, commercially or free available anyway.

Yes, that's exactly the idea

[egbert101]

After all, you are only weighing in with negativity at this point, for quite a while in this thread actually. No need to be dragged into it any further

It's pretty ironic, calling me negative, and believing yourself as being positive.

At this point, you have lost the plot, as most others that religiously support the developer by personally attacking anyone who dare have a different opinion on this forum.

I know exactly what this kind of behaviour is, and it can get ugly and even dangerous if unchecked. Let's see just how bad it gets here.

Reason I'm warning people to stay away from bad developers is simple: it will save them a lot of wasted time and emotional energy in future. I'll happily continue warning people in future.

[fluffy_little_something]

I would not use those synths because my mind doesn't work that way, but I would not say he is a "bad developer"

[egbert101]

I would not use those synths because my mind doesn't work that way, but I would not say he is a "bad developer"

Lets leave it at 'bad attitude' then.

[Guenon]

At this point, you have lost the plot, as most others that religiously support the developer by personally attacking anyone who dare have a different opinion on this forum.

I enjoy experimental software and I think it's a joy there is stuff like this out in the open ! I support the notion that people can share things in this manner without being called "bad" or "shit" for doing it, that's all there is to it.

I know exactly what this kind of behaviour is, and it can get ugly and even dangerous if unchecked. Let's see just how bad it gets here.

Reason I'm warning people to stay away from bad developers is simple: it will save them a lot of wasted time and emotional energy in future. I'll happily continue warning people in future.

I see . I guess you will be the outstanding warning sign for people who share your opinions on matters like this, in the future as well. That's cool.

[CrystalWizard]

It's also quite a shit attitude

Wow the irony is so thick you could cut it with a chainsaw.

Let me ask you something....have to ever contributing anything to KVR ? A patch, a sample, a skin, tutorial...anything ?

So, if company XY releases a free plugin, it is a contribution to the community eh? Naive much?

Yes, it is. Even 'as is' it is a contribution to the community. Most importantly you use the word 'company' which has implications such as commerse. AFAIK Hrast Programmer is not a company.

After all, you are only weighing in with negativity at this point, for quite a while in this thread actually. No need to be dragged into it any further

It's pretty ironic, calling me negative, and believing yourself as being positive.

At this point, you have lost the plot, as most others that religiously support the developer by personally attacking anyone who dare have a different opinion on this forum.

I know exactly what this kind of behaviour is, and it can get ugly and even dangerous if unchecked. Let's see just how bad it gets here.

Reason I'm warning people to stay away from bad developers is simple: it will save them a lot of wasted time and emotional energy in future. I'll happily continue warning people in future.

You are being negative and You have lost the plot (if you ever had it.) Calling Hrast Programmer a 'bad developer' (or at least insinuating it) proves it. It also shows a really entitled, selfish, and immature outlook. Once again, if you don't like it, can't use it, etc. then move on. It would be like me calling U&I Software "bad developers" because they haven't made MetaSynth pc compatible. Actually the comparison doesn't fit because MetaSynth is a item of commerse but Tranzistow and Diodow are Not.
At this point it seems that any more effort trying to put the matter in perspective is time wasted. Words, logic, and reasoning don't work with everyone.

[CrystalWizard]

Oops double post

[kokotte]

a bad developer, you're serious, Hrast is , for me, one of the best dev with Gol, Urs and dmitry from diversion and Richard from synapse.( i could say Angus, Lennard, uvi, solo too....)
people are more interesting with nice ui and quick presets for make fastfood music ala mcDo.
no prob for me, enjoy,but stop bashing if you re not able to understand the power under a synth engine.
let's talk about unik features Harst dev bring to the table in the vsr world, like rotor, phaselocked, cv input, additive via gpu....

[chk071]

It's also quite a shit attitude

Wow the irony is so thick you could cut it with a chainsaw.

Let me ask you something....have to ever contributing anything to KVR ? A patch, a sample, a skin, tutorial...anything ?

So, if company XY releases a free plugin, it is a contribution to the community eh? Naive much?

Yes, it is. Even 'as is' it is a contribution to the community. Most importantly you use the word 'company' which has implications such as commerse. AFAIK Hrast Programmer is not a company.

I am aware that it isn't. But, most companies release freeware as a means to advertise for their commerciral plugins, and absolutely righteously so. I don't get this "community" thinking, i neither asked for this, nor does the dev have to feel insulted if people compare it to other plugins, or criticize certain things about the plugin. If he wants to develop something entirely for himself, he can feel free to do so. The moment he releases it to the public, he should be aware that people will judge whether it is something which is useful for themselves as well, or if that is not the case.

But, why we even discuss this? Obviously, the dev does know all this.

[egbert101]

You are being negative and You have lost the plot (if you ever had it.) Calling Hrast Programmer a 'bad developer' (or at least insinuating it) proves it. It also shows a really entitled, selfish, and immature outlook. Once again, if you don't like it, can't use it, etc. then move on. It would be like me calling U&I Software "bad developers" because they haven't made MetaSynth pc compatible. Actually the comparison doesn't fit because MetaSynth is a item of commerse but Tranzistow and Diodow are Not.
At this point it seems that any more effort trying to put the matter in perspective is time wasted. Words, logic, and reasoning don't work with everyone.

See, I haven't even engaged you, yet you jump onto the insult and personal attack bandwagon, showing the same cultish behaviour as all the others.

Again, having a different opinion on a public forum isn't a crime.

[Guenon]

Again, having a different opinion on a public forum isn't a crime.

Exactly this

Voicing a different opinion on a public forum isn't religious or cultish either. It's merely presenting a different viewpoint from yours. Similarly, if someone voices their opinion on their own personal website about how they like to use the software they created, and wish to share it with people who see things alike, it's not a crime either, or "bad attitude." Also, pointing out that these sorts of labels you put on stuff/people are a bit harsh isn't "attacking" or "ugly" or "dangerous".

[egbert101]

a bad developer, you're serious, Hrast is , for me, one of the best dev with Gol, Urs and dmitry from diversion and Richard from synapse.( i could say Angus, Lennard, uvi, solo too....)
people are more interesting with nice ui and quick presets for make fastfood music ala mcDo.
no prob for me, enjoy,but stop bashing if you re not able to understand the power under a synth engine.
let's talk about unik features Harst dev bring to the table in the vsr world, like rotor, phaselocked, cv input, additive via gpu....

I didn't say bad developer, i said the following:

"Reason I'm warning people to stay away from bad developers is simple: it will save them a lot of wasted time and emotional energy in future. I'll happily continue warning people in future."

My original point was about attitude. Bad developer is perhaps going too far, and I'll apologise for that misunderstanding and I apologise to the developer for implying it. And with that, I'll take myself out of this thread.

[Guenon]

My original point was about attitude. Bad developer is perhaps going too far, and I'll apologise for that misunderstanding and I apologise to the developer for implying it. And with that, I'll take myself out of this thread.

Thumbs up again