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iDavid · Post by **iDavid** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:00 am

What do you people use.

I've been pretty happy with George L's, but they keep coming lose and I'm too lazy to tighten the up

I've heard monster are pretty good.

I found this store that sells some pretty high end gear. Here is the link for the cables they sell.

http://www.tonemerchants.com/Cables.htm

Do you think they are worth it?

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:48 pm

Where do you think are the differences between an average cable and an high-end cable (as on that site)?

I'm asking because i don't care if a certain "Tone Merchants" that sells cables says that it is "amazed by the difference".

warbug · Post by **warbug** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:29 pm

pro-co Excaliber

best money i ever spent on a cable, has a spring loaded shealth on one end so if you cable pops outta your guitar it does not make that horrible noise.

was about 35 bills.

iDavid · Post by **iDavid** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:32 pm

Man,

I don't know so much about cables, hence the post.

My George L's do sound better than the cheaper cables I've had...

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:56 pm

The audio cable industry is such a brilliant scam.
100% marketing 0% science.

Boys, nuffco salutes you. Keep taking the suckers. Nothing that profitable should be legal.

iDavid · Post by **iDavid** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:08 pm

nuffink wrote:The audio cable industry is such a brilliant scam.
100% marketing 0% science.

Boys, nuffco salutes you. Keep taking the suckers. Nothing that profitable should be legal.

So, what do you use?

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:48 pm

iDavid wrote:
nuffink wrote:The audio cable industry is such a brilliant scam.
100% marketing 0% science.

Boys, nuffco salutes you. Keep taking the suckers. Nothing that profitable should be legal.
So, what do you use?

nuffco EARFLOSS

Revolutionary axe leads from the company you know you can't trust. Featuring:-

9 Nines (99.999999999%) pure unobtainium core, annealed to form a single continuous crystal.

Afghani cashmere interlayer (makes silk sound thick and muddy).

Screen comprised of 17 layers of sterling silver leaf. Hand wrapped by I Konishiga san, 80 year old master of the ancient Japanese art of obfurscatori (wrapping).

Coated with a panda foreskin sheath for the ultimate in rf breakthrough rejection.

Vanishingly low inductance, and capacitance.*

Only 27,000 euros per meter.

*16 ohm resistance, but we have a tame boffin who can plausibly explain why this is irrelevant.

iDavid · Post by **iDavid** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:51 pm

You put a lot of effort into that post

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:54 pm

iDavid wrote:You put a lot of effort into that post

Couple of minutes. I know the bullshit they use well.

Har · Post by **Har** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:59 pm

In my case I just want them to be able to last for a while without wearing out, going intermittant, etc....if cheap ones deliver that kind of dependability, I'm happy.

A sizeable amount of my cables are Monster, but mainly because I had a friend of mine wire up a bunch of them for me off a spool of Monster wire that he had ...and that was back in 1986, and they're STILL holding up great. So that's why most of mine are Monster...becauser they're the same ones I've had since then and haven't needed to buy others!

On the other hand, I've bought cheap ones that lasted about a year or less (I dunno, maybe I'm just extraordinarily rough on cables

).

I recently bought a bunch of Live Wire short cables for use between my pedals; they were very affordable and seem really sturdy too...so if I had a need for more cables, perhaps I'd look into that brand.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:01 pm

There defenitely IS a difference in cables, sometimes even a rather huge difference... there's some questions though:
A) Is the rest of your equipment up to the task as well?
B) Is the investment worth it?
C) Does it even sound "better" (whatever that might mean)?

Personally, I am no Mr. Golden Ears at all (years of playing in rather loud rock bands without earplugs ruined that fun), I still noticed a more or less drastical difference on my setup when a friend came over with a few monster cables to check them out (they even have differently sounding ones).
But then, in the end I was pretty much as happy with the cables I'm using since ages (Zeck or Klotz with Neutrik plugs) and defenitely couldn't say they were sounding "worse" (maybe even more to the opposite). At least it doesn't seem I could justify the price at all.
There's differences though. I recommend doing a test by yourself.

Col.G · Post by **Col.G** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:17 pm

Just get one of these.
http://www.whirlwindusa.com/inst01.html
I guarantee it will get lost or stolen before it breaks. I have had mine for 20 years now. And I bet most of the guitar players here will agree with me.

iDavid · Post by **iDavid** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:18 pm

Klotz seem like pretty decent cables. From what I've read they are like the George L's with the problems...

Robert Randolph · Post by **Robert Randolph** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:23 pm

I actually love planet waves circuit breakers.

They stand up very well, the circuit breaker feature is invaluable when playing at gig-volumes, and they dont suffer from any "normal" cheap-cable problems... sever rfi, microphonic etc...

but sounding better? err... well they dont get weird interferences or anything like a lot of cables Ive used. But they certainly dont do anything magical. just well made cables.

Har · Post by **Har** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:37 pm

Col.G wrote:Just get one of these.
http://www.whirlwindusa.com/inst01.html
I guarantee it will get lost or stolen before it breaks. I have had mine for 20 years now. And I bet most of the guitar players here will agree with me.

I wish I could: when I first started out years ago (late 70's/early 80's) I used to use Whirlwind cables a lot, but all the them went bad and broke and often fairly quickly. But maybe they make them better since then.

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