Eplex7 releases Quantakor plugin instrument for WIN/MAC - sound generated by artificial intelligence

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recursive one wrote:
Eplex7 DSP wrote:
Tj Shredder wrote:
CrystalWizard wrote:I'll post my comment here too: i'm more interested in this statement:

'Many of internal sounds were generated by futuristic, innovative and mysterious ways like artificial intelligence resampling/morphing, neuronal synthesis and complex resynthesis (also using our own unreleased plug-ins and algorithms).'

I'd like to know more and if they plan on releasing these plug-ins and algos.
This does not make a Rompler with some synth elements realy that more interesting. Just the creation of the samples used those interesting tools. A sample is a sample is a sample and thus a fixed entity...
Didn't even convince me to download the demo...
Yes we respect your opinion. But just few words to consider. We spent approx 30-120 minutes with creating every individual instrument/multi-layer-multi octave sound (it is not just one sample). With this tempo creating full song can take more than 6 months or years for author if he creates every one sound. For this reason many pro producers are using tools like Omnisphere, Nexus etc. Because modern music is more and more difficult, complex, people want to hear new special sounds, it is not like in 90s when people were in extasy of basic one oscillator analog sound, they want more and more, for this reason production of music is much more difficult and time-consuming process and many pro producers are using also romplers so they can focus fully on music production, arrangements, mixing, etc. it is not so difficult to modify sound of rompler with external effects. For this reason we decided to go this way and help musicians, because basic listeners dont care if he used rompler or synthesizer, they see just final song. Thanks
If you are catering people who make dark/hitech psytrance, psybient, dark ambient etc, then I don't know any producer having even a little bit of self-esteem who would use prefabricated content for sounds like those I've heard in your demos. Since these genres typically don't have much melodic content you can only be creative and original if you are making your own sounds. Constructing tracks of samples in these genres is like "writing" heavy metal songs of pre-recorded guitar riffs and licks.

It is for various styles of music, you can use it in FILM / Video game music, you can use it for intros of industrial music, in intros of Drum & Bass. Personally I dont see any problem of using romplers in dark psytrance (many professional producers do that) if you combine various soursces of sounds, you can still modify these sounds with external effects and create brand new sounds very fast. 90% of darkpsy / hitech tracks that I hear today are boring and all sounds the same because people using only simmilar type of basic FM sounds and FXs. If you want to use this type of complex sounds you will probably need Quantum Computer :-D because usually this kind of sounds consume 40-90% of CPU just with one sound. I cannot imagine real-time creation of DarkPsy with this kind of sounds because of processing power. Just an example: Top Cooks do not plant their own vegetables, spices, etc. - they are purchasing "prefabricated" ingredients and semi-finished products combining lets say 50 basic ingredients and still every food tastes totally different, it is similar with music production. I think rejection of using any samples and romplers is little bit old-skool, and also some genres sounds often too old-skool (most of darkpsy) comparing to other genres where people do not affraid to use various sources (like modern dubstep, melodic drum and bass, progressive psytrance) here people using also romplers, various efects etc. and music sounds much more colorfull, modern and fresh because people focus on songs. If you create every one sound of this type personally Im affraid you will spen making one track one year :-D Just our opinion :-D
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I just can't tell what sounds this synth making in real time! There's so many tracks playing and so much reverb - I can't tell what's fish or fowl!

Maybe if you displayed a few tracks with only one instance playing all sounds in real time, I'd have a better idea of what this thing does. Right now, I just hear a sound effects ROMpler, drenched in reverb, and I have plenty of "sound effects" samples and patches, and reverbs.

I wish you well with your project!

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Eplex7 DSP wrote:- Huge library of multioctaved / multisampled sounds, fx, soundcapes, waveforms and synthesizers (1,2 GB) created by by futuristic, innovative and mysterious ways like artificial intelligence resampling / morphing, neuronal synthesis and complex resynthesis (also using our own unreleased plug-ins and algorithms)
These unreleased plugins are by far the more interesting product. A rompler is one thing but when you have the code for such innovative software you are wasting it by not creating a unique product. I have no doubt that there would be a market, especially here on this forum.

Can you show us some of these mysterious ways in action?

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mutantdog wrote:
Eplex7 DSP wrote:- Huge library of multioctaved / multisampled sounds, fx, soundcapes, waveforms and synthesizers (1,2 GB) created by by futuristic, innovative and mysterious ways like artificial intelligence resampling / morphing, neuronal synthesis and complex resynthesis (also using our own unreleased plug-ins and algorithms)
These unreleased plugins are by far the more interesting product. A rompler is one thing but when you have the code for such innovative software you are wasting it by not creating a unique product. I have no doubt that there would be a market, especially here on this forum.

Can you show us some of these mysterious ways in action?
I totally second that. why releasing a simple near boring rompler when you have in your hands such amazing resynthesis & morphing software? If that's the case, I think you're really taking the wrong route as a developer.

So allow me to have doubts here about those magic 'complex' software...

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i like checking demos out before i praise/condemn a new plugin. but quantakor (in logic X), gives me just ONE sound to try: airplane, a white noise effect. surely there's more to the demo than some hiss with reverb....
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fisherKing wrote:i like checking demos out before i praise/condemn a new plugin. but quantakor (in logic X), gives me just ONE sound to try: airplane, a white noise effect. surely there's more to the demo than some hiss with reverb....
Seriously? THAT'S it????

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wagtunes wrote:
fisherKing wrote:i like checking demos out before i praise/condemn a new plugin. but quantakor (in logic X), gives me just ONE sound to try: airplane, a white noise effect. surely there's more to the demo than some hiss with reverb....
Seriously? THAT'S it????
seems impossible; there must be more content. either way, they need to get this together ASAP, that can't be all they're showing in a demo.

for example, for me, it's over. i can't spend more time on this, there are other plugins to demo (and real work to do). i gotta say, over the last few years i've demo'd a LOT of synths... but i own about six.

anyway, hope (for their sake) they sort this out quickly...
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fisherKing wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
fisherKing wrote:i like checking demos out before i praise/condemn a new plugin. but quantakor (in logic X), gives me just ONE sound to try: airplane, a white noise effect. surely there's more to the demo than some hiss with reverb....
Seriously? THAT'S it????
seems impossible; there must be more content. either way, they need to get this together ASAP, that can't be all they're showing in a demo.

for example, for me, it's over. i can't spend more time on this, there are other plugins to demo (and real work to do). i gotta say, over the last few years i've demo'd a LOT of synths... but i own about six.

anyway, hope (for their sake) they sort this out quickly...
6 synths?

I admire your restraint.

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Their issue in the past was that they were using synthmaker, and the promised 64 bit versions were never delivered. I suspect in this case they are simply using maize sampler or HISE or whatever they’re called.

There is little evidence that they can actually code their own plugins from scratch. Apologies, if this is not the case, but we have been waiting 3 or 4 years, they claimed 64 bit versions were incoming. Even if true, they have certainly sidelined them to make this.

*not a bad thing if they are not able, it would be nice if they would just be up front about it. Failed promises are never good for customer relations.

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wagtunes wrote:
fisherKing wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
fisherKing wrote:i like checking demos out before i praise/condemn a new plugin. but quantakor (in logic X), gives me just ONE sound to try: airplane, a white noise effect. surely there's more to the demo than some hiss with reverb....
Seriously? THAT'S it????
seems impossible; there must be more content. either way, they need to get this together ASAP, that can't be all they're showing in a demo.

for example, for me, it's over. i can't spend more time on this, there are other plugins to demo (and real work to do). i gotta say, over the last few years i've demo'd a LOT of synths... but i own about six.

anyway, hope (for their sake) they sort this out quickly...
6 synths?

I admire your restraint.
i've used a LOT of synths, but i generally change my arsenal about twice a year; new inspiration, new sounds... keeps things interesting.
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Too much mystic smoke and mirrors nonsense, for me (and I love that kind of thing!).

Until I see substantially greater need to add this to my musical life, my opinion is leaning toward a neuronal synthesis regenesis of artificially intelligent waste of time, from the 12th dimension. Life is too short...

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Eplex7 DSP wrote:If you want to use this type of complex sounds you will probably need Quantum Computer :-D because usually this kind of sounds consume 40-90% of CPU just with one sound.
Kinda reminds me of Sches Diversion :hihi: Full poly and unison, piles of modulation and cpu screams red. Still he released it, and it's one of the best synths I have (though my current PC can handle it much better).

So considering that there are Zynaptiq and Melda already providing morphing tools and vocoders (just to mention few).. I'm in that "well release your mysterious tools then ffs" -camp too :lol:

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SciFiArtMan wrote:I just can't tell what sounds this synth making in real time! There's so many tracks playing and so much reverb - I can't tell what's fish or fowl!

Maybe if you displayed a few tracks with only one instance playing all sounds in real time, I'd have a better idea of what this thing does. Right now, I just hear a sound effects ROMpler, drenched in reverb, and I have plenty of "sound effects" samples and patches, and reverbs.

I wish you well with your project!
Here we made VIDEO FOR YOU :) Pure QUANTAKOR, no reverb, no delay, no limiters, no sidechain compression.... just pure quantakor + very minimalistic beat

enjoy :-) and Thanks




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Can you also create a video demonstrating the "futuristic, innovative and mysterious ways" used to create the source audio?

I can assure you that it will boost your sales significantly if we can see how these sounds have been made, just look at how much hype there was around Omnisphere when they released that burning piano footage for example.

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wagtunes wrote:

fisherKing wrote:
i like checking demos out before i praise/condemn a new plugin. but quantakor (in logic X), gives me just ONE sound to try: airplane, a white noise effect. surely there's more to the demo than some hiss with reverb....



Seriously? THAT'S it????
Yes, seriously THATS it.

A rompler with a demo version with ONE sound.

I must admit I was attracted by the big words too, but behind it is not much really....and NICE videos NOW (after the most annoying demo I have ever downloaded) would count for me the same then the nice words.....

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