Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

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aMUSEd
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29652 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:46 pm

Why is it so bloody complicated? I want to be able to simply assign cc16 to X and cc17 to Y in Alchemy. There doesn't seem to be any way to manually enter this, instead there's this ridiculously complex assignment setup page where you either have to learn a control, which is really hit and miss, or a gazillion options to enter stuff, most of which mean nothing to me, but nothing that looks like 'enter cc no here'.

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aMUSEd
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29652 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:37 pm

How do you manually add CC's (not learn which doesn't seem to work well)?

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stardustmedia
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1638 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland

Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:06 am

Hit B (opens the MIDI controller assignment GUI window in the bottom = way easier to handle), click learn for MIDI, turn MIDI controller, deactivate learn, click learn for plugin, click parameter in Alchemy, deactivate learn.

There you can also define min, max values, select a non-linear behaviour. You can even assign multiple parameter to one MIDI CC = MACRO.

When you hit B, you already get a preconfigured MIDI assignments, depending on what is in the channel. It will use the most common parameters automatically.
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aMUSEd
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Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:18 am

I want to enter CC's manually - learn is too erratic

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stardustmedia
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Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:33 am

Really? It works quite straight forward here.
What do you mean by erratic?

What you can do is to assign [any] MIDI CC to the desired parameter, then in the expert view (the pop up window, not the one in the bottom) you enter the MIDI CC you want. But that's not as simple as you wanted.

I don't know of an easy way to enter MIDI CC values manually.
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aMUSEd
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Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:31 am

It just doesn't seem to learn or remember stuff consistently. The expert view is the one that's confusing me, so many options but can't see any for simply entering a cc number.

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Tj Shredder
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1263 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:35 am

stardustmedia wrote:What do you mean by erratic?
Simply if you have a controller which pulls out several different ccs at the same time, like an expressive instrument or a joystick, you need to be able at least to correct it after learn...

nordickvr
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920 posts since 29 Sep, 2013

Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:01 am

Not sure you'll like this solution but this is the one I prefer to assign CCs.
I use the Modifier MIDI FX.
At "Input Event" I'd place 16 General Purpose 1.
Then for "Re-Assign To" I'd use the - Lear Plug-in Parameter -.
But, to "learn" the said parameter I'd use Alchemy's Controls View setting and just change/touch the Transform Pad X slider's value.
Changing the slider's value when learning is quite easy.
My 2 cents.

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Tj Shredder
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1263 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:32 am

Would be simply nicer if you don't need that work around...

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aMUSEd
KVRAF
29652 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Re: Logic X controller assignments make no sense!?

Post Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:44 am

Yeah I don't understand why it doesn't seem possible with all those options to enter cc manually

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