How to keep "higher frequencies" down?
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- KVRist
- 122 posts since 7 Feb, 2016
Hello guys, i have a little curiosity regarding mixing the higher frequency portion of a layered bass sound.
Basically, i was mixing a little duo beatbox performance of friends and encountered the following problem. One guy was making the kick/bass the other guy was singing. Guy n.1 was able to create a layered bass by using his throat for the lower part of the bass and his lips oscillating for the higher layer. The problem is that the higher layer of the bass was interfering with the vocal of Guy n.2.
I want to keep the vocal at the center and the bass down under. How can I control those high bass frequencies? What tool would be appropriate for the result i want? Is it a compressor? Or is a compressor wrong for that? Is it a low-pass filter? Basically i want to retain the clarity and crispness of the bass and at the same time to keep it under the vocal.
Basically, i was mixing a little duo beatbox performance of friends and encountered the following problem. One guy was making the kick/bass the other guy was singing. Guy n.1 was able to create a layered bass by using his throat for the lower part of the bass and his lips oscillating for the higher layer. The problem is that the higher layer of the bass was interfering with the vocal of Guy n.2.
I want to keep the vocal at the center and the bass down under. How can I control those high bass frequencies? What tool would be appropriate for the result i want? Is it a compressor? Or is a compressor wrong for that? Is it a low-pass filter? Basically i want to retain the clarity and crispness of the bass and at the same time to keep it under the vocal.
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- KVRian
- 1158 posts since 6 Jan, 2015 from London, England
In any case where audio signal A is interfering with audio signal B, you can duck the volume of A whenever B sounds by putting a sidechained compressor on A that's triggered by B. There are a lot of videos on YouTube about sidechained compression.
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- KVRAF
- 2719 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
You should be able to solve this with EQ. Try using a broad bell to cut the high-mids around 1k from the bass, and a shelf to remove some low-end from the main vocal.
You may find it helpful to sweep around the frequenct range with a narrow eq boost to identify what the key frequency ranges are for each part. Then use that information to shape them and keep the best of both. Don't use narrow boosts in the final version though, broad boosts sound much more natural.
You may find it helpful to sweep around the frequenct range with a narrow eq boost to identify what the key frequency ranges are for each part. Then use that information to shape them and keep the best of both. Don't use narrow boosts in the final version though, broad boosts sound much more natural.
- KVRian
- 782 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
EQ is your friend. Some EQ plugins will show you a frequency response of the sound as it's playing so you can nail the right frequencies.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Are you sure about that?Halonmusic wrote:Low cut
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- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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Didnt really read the post, just the name of the thread. Embarrassed now.Mushy Mushy wrote:Are you sure about that?Halonmusic wrote:Low cut
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
You were closeHalonmusic wrote:Didnt really read the post, just the name of the thread. Embarrassed now.Mushy Mushy wrote:Are you sure about that?Halonmusic wrote:Low cut![]()
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Mushy Mushy wrote:You were closeHalonmusic wrote:Didnt really read the post, just the name of the thread. Embarrassed now.Mushy Mushy wrote:Are you sure about that?Halonmusic wrote:Low cut![]()
Lots of people mix low and high cut up. Although personally I don’t see how...
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- KVRist
- 156 posts since 4 Mar, 2014
I often use TDR SlickEq in german mode for this, works great for quickly finding and dialing down certain painful frequencies in the cleanest possible way. Sort of like a tilt eq.
Check out the newest Acceleration limiter by Airwindows as well, along with Toneslant, CStrip, Slew, Slew2 and Average.
Check out the newest Acceleration limiter by Airwindows as well, along with Toneslant, CStrip, Slew, Slew2 and Average.
- KVRian
- 782 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
I tend to low cut most of my tracks anyway just to keep the super low end frequencies from getting muddy, so technically you're not wrong?Halonmusic wrote:Didnt really read the post, just the name of the thread. Embarrassed now.Mushy Mushy wrote:Are you sure about that?Halonmusic wrote:Low cut![]()
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- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Well I guess im not that wrong anywayzenophilix wrote:I tend to low cut most of my tracks anyway just to keep the super low end frequencies from getting muddy, so technically you're not wrong?Halonmusic wrote:Didnt really read the post, just the name of the thread. Embarrassed now.Mushy Mushy wrote:Are you sure about that?Halonmusic wrote:Low cut![]()
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- KVRian
- 703 posts since 28 Oct, 2014
they get mixed up with low cut and low pass. they both mean the opposite, but both get used by people to explain the same thing.Mushy Mushy wrote:You were closeHalonmusic wrote:Didnt really read the post, just the name of the thread. Embarrassed now.Mushy Mushy wrote:Are you sure about that?Halonmusic wrote:Low cut![]()
Lots of people mix low and high cut up. Although personally I don’t see how...
even i have to pause for a second when my eq is showing me a list of filters low cut, high pass, low pass etc, and i been dealing with it for over 15 years
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
I just don’t get it, it couldn’t be more clear IMO._al_ wrote:they get mixed up with low cut and low pass. they both mean the opposite, but both get used by people to explain the same thing.Mushy Mushy wrote:You were closeHalonmusic wrote:Didnt really read the post, just the name of the thread. Embarrassed now.Mushy Mushy wrote:Are you sure about that?Halonmusic wrote:Low cut![]()
Lots of people mix low and high cut up. Although personally I don’t see how...
even i have to pause for a second when my eq is showing me a list of filters low cut, high pass, low pass etc, and i been dealing with it for over 15 years
Low cut = cuts the low. No more low.
High cut = cuts the high. No more high.
Low pass = passes the low. No more high.
High pass = passes the high. No more low.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"