KVR Audio

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:19 pm

Doesn´t look good. I wish they find the way out, and we can purchase Gibson guitars in the future, too.
I´ve got two of those.

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/ ... me-rapidly

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:38 pm

So you're all sorted already!

If they go bust, even their mediocre axes will gain value instantly, since "they don't make them anymore".

Now sincerely, when they go bust it will be a dark day indeed...

Scrubbing Monkeys · Post by **Scrubbing Monkeys** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:33 pm

Seems logical. Gibson stuff is good but you have to pay Americans $ 20.00 an hour plus benies. Now compete with better and better imports for 1/ 10 the price. Thier faded line and Epiphone can compete. A Les Paul. Not if you are searching value.

resynthesis · Post by **resynthesis** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:47 pm

One problem in recent years is that Gibson guitars have been dire. Some of the custom shop stuff is good quality but the rest has miserable QC and build. I hope somebody gets hold of the core business and takes it back to doing what it does best.

BTW yes I do have a Gibson.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:11 am

resynthesis wrote:One problem in recent years is that Gibson guitars have been dire. Some of the custom shop stuff is good quality but the rest has miserable QC and build. I hope somebody gets hold of the core business and takes it back to doing what it does best.

BTW yes I do have a Gibson.

I can do you one better. I just named my newborn Gibson.

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:26 am

Harry_HH wrote:Doesn´t look good. I wish they find the way out, and we can purchase Gibson guitars in the future, too.
I´ve got two of those.

https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/ ... me-rapidly

Gibson guitars have become trash under Henry's mis-management...

His prime motivation is profit,so it will be good or him to learn a few important lessons here....

If a private equity company does come along and bail the company out,I hope that they make Henry da Vandal walk the plank....

It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

imrae · Post by **imrae** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:21 am

Scrubbing Monkeys wrote:Seems logical. Gibson stuff is good but you have to pay Americans $ 20.00 an hour plus benies. Now compete with better and better imports for 1/ 10 the price. Thier faded line and Epiphone can compete. A Les Paul. Not if you are searching value.

I don't think this is the problem; there is absolutely a market for expensive guitars with "Gibson" on the headstock. The issue is that the market will not grow at anything like the rate Gibson Brands has been growing.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:49 am

They need to catch up and ad some eurorack compatibility

Turello · Post by **Turello** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:57 am

Gibson stop to make great guitars around 1993/96... Now they use Aquaman (instead of true Musicians) to promote their products... Seems logical!

ATN69 · Post by **ATN69** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:03 am

It’s always sad to see a old and well known brand being run into the ground by clueless and incompetent management.

stratum · Post by **stratum** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:51 pm

Maybe the guitar is in trouble?
https://www.musicradar.com/news/eric-cl ... ar-is-over

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:06 pm

stratum wrote:Maybe the guitar is in trouble?
https://www.musicradar.com/news/eric-cl ... ar-is-over

Very interesting point. Its obvious, that the fall of approximately 33% in annual guitar sales across the last decade, is directly related to the increased use of so called virtual instruments, DAWs´and sample-based librariers.
But I don´t believe that "the guitar is over", as Clapton ponders, but maybe the hayday, what was seen in the second half of the last century, is over.
Maybe someone re-invents guitar, in the way electric guitar was a re-invention of the acoustic guitar. Midi-guitar didn´t do that, but most likely we haven´t seen all "guitar", yet.

Winstontaneous · Post by **Winstontaneous** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:15 pm

Aside from the Les Paul Studio pretty much all the American-made Gibsons are outside the reach of gigging musicians I know. A set-neck guitar is not easy to service if something happens to the neck (let alone customize) compared to Fender-style bolt-ons. And once you go north of $2K the competition is stiff and you'll get better ergonomics from a Paul Reed Smith or the like.

Beyond that, Gibson has bought (and run into the ground, or turned into ghostly shadows of their former selves) the Opcode, Echoplex, Cakewalk, Steinberger, Amplified Music Products bass amps, Tobias bass, and Trace Elliot brands. Whatever problems the main Gibson brand now has is due to years of greed, ineptitude, and ignorance of their core competencies.

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:52 am

Winstontaneous wrote:Beyond that, Gibson has bought (and run into the ground, or turned into ghostly shadows of their former selves) the Opcode, Echoplex, Cakewalk, Steinberger, Amplified Music Products bass amps, Tobias bass, and Trace Elliot brands. Whatever problems the main Gibson brand now has is due to years of greed, ineptitude, and ignorance of their core competencies.

Yes Sir...it's all coming around to bite them on the arse

rp314 · Post by **rp314** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:53 am

Every band I see on television nowadays seems to have at least one person playing a Telecaster. Les Pauls, ES-335s and SGs haven't gone away but I think Fender is definitely much more prevalent among current popular bands.

So are L-5s going to suddenly become affordable?

Gibson guitars in big financial trouble