Overloud Sculptube
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- KVRian
- 1086 posts since 17 Jun, 2012
Some irrefutable facts
Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
- KVRAF
- 10174 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Marketing speak Slate would be proud of
- KVRAF
- 24455 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
That is a personal opinion, not a scientifically proven fact. Also performance benefits of using fixed vs floating point was valid 15 years ago. Today, those performance benefits are mostly moot. That IS a fact.AC222 wrote:Some irrefutable facts
Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
You need to stop trolling.
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generaldiomedes generaldiomedes https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=396947
- KVRian
- 674 posts since 15 Apr, 2017 from Canada
Well, technically assembler will sound better as you can do more within the same processor constraints .. but that is nothing inherent to assembler. Am I missing something?
- KVRAF
- 24455 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Yes, you're missing something. Using assembler instead your regular C++ to do the number crunching does not change how a certain algorithm sounds if all the same math with all the same data types is being performed!generaldiomedes wrote:Well, technically assembler will sound better as you can do more within the same processor constraints .. but that is nothing inherent to assembler. Am I missing something?
- KVRAF
- 25047 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
The fact is that Lentini said or wrote that (assuming your quote is correct, of course), not that any of what he claims is true.AC222 wrote:Some irrefutable facts
Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
If you really believe that quoting someone else claiming something - without giving the slightest proof for this claim whastoever - does make it even just slightly more factual than if you only made that unfounded claim yourself, then there is no point in arguing anything with you. Chances are even a conversation about the Teletubbies would go straight over your head.
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- KVRian
- 730 posts since 17 Sep, 2007 from Planet Thanet
My day job for many years was writing avionics software. If I use this assembler "trick" will our aircraft handle turbulence better?AC222 wrote:Yes that is correct. Speaking of languages, codswallop? What gives, can’t think of something more creative?resynthesis wrote:So, if I use /FA on my VC++ compiler to output the assembly language and then assemble it, everything will sound smoother? LMAO, codswallop!
PS I've been writing in various assembly languages since the 80s.
Creative, nah not me, but how about Fry & Laurie's "sloblock"? Better?
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- KVRian
- 1086 posts since 17 Jun, 2012
jens wrote:The fact is that Lentini said or wrote that (assuming your quote is correct, of course), not that any of what he claims is true.AC222 wrote:Some irrefutable facts
Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
If you really believe that quoting someone else claiming something - without giving the slightest proof for this claim whastoever - does make it even just slightly more factual than if you only made that unfounded claim yourself, then there is no point in arguing anything with you. Chances are even a conversation about the Teletubbies would go straight over your head.
- KVRAF
- 24455 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Nice strawman.
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- KVRist
- 375 posts since 5 Nov, 2007 from Liverpool, UK
This is a phat machine code 0: O
You really don't need to hear the different to know that there is one.
Assembler gets you most of the way there, but machine code makes the best noise.
You really don't need to hear the different to know that there is one.
Assembler gets you most of the way there, but machine code makes the best noise.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
and it stops hereAC222 wrote:I wouldn’t know the answer to this question but I do know it takes one to know onenordickvr wrote:Does troll take advantage of assembler?
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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Winstontaneous Winstontaneous https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=98336
- KVRAF
- 2598 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Another Green World
Well, duh! Nice round numbers = nice round sound. Little known fact, those decimals in floating point mercilessly decimate the sound like a bad bitcrusher. I've found that when trying to make things sound like they're underwater, floating point just doesn't work because, well, the sounds keep floating up to the surface. Also, when mixing punk, industrial or noise music with software using assembly language - everything sounds a little too "structured" and well-put-together if you know what I mean. So I put the code through a polarity inversion, transforming it into "disassembly" language to get the sound I need. So simple!AC222 wrote:Some irrefutable facts
Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
Please go post this in the DSP forum posthaste.
