why does Ableton only using one thread core? CPU overloading.
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Have you tested with Reaper? It has clearer CPU usage graph and numbers. I also suggest to test some other demos like Bitwig and Studio One and compare with Ableton Live results.
I had a problem with my laptop and windows 7 some years ago. It was also a latency problem, I think, that had nothing to do with the processor. It was this problem with some WLAN drivers and Windows 7. Do you hear this noise randomly? or only when your CPU maxing out?
Keep on it, and you will reach to the main reason. If you have a friend with an external audio interface, it would be good, so you can test it as well in your system.
I had a problem with my laptop and windows 7 some years ago. It was also a latency problem, I think, that had nothing to do with the processor. It was this problem with some WLAN drivers and Windows 7. Do you hear this noise randomly? or only when your CPU maxing out?
Keep on it, and you will reach to the main reason. If you have a friend with an external audio interface, it would be good, so you can test it as well in your system.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 438 posts since 21 Feb, 2006
yes my problem is exactly what you are describing.EnGee wrote:Have you tested with Reaper? It has clearer CPU usage graph and numbers. I also suggest to test some other demos like Bitwig and Studio One and compare with Ableton Live results.
I had a problem with my laptop and windows 7 some years ago. It was also a latency problem, I think, that had nothing to do with the processor. It was this problem with some WLAN drivers and Windows 7. Do you hear this noise randomly? or only when your CPU maxing out?
Keep on it, and you will reach to the main reason. If you have a friend with an external audio interface, it would be good, so you can test it as well in your system.
Ive used other DAWs, same clicking sound regardless of what latencymon says. sometimes it reads its working, when clearly im having a problem.
odly enough coming out of left ear.
not my mixer,card,headphones, exta.....all been troubleshooted and work fine.
i think i read something about the wlan drivers, not sure what to do though. yes im using windows 7
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Or use something like this free app (http://tringi.trimcore.cz/Full_Throttle_Override) that will engage High Performance mode whenever a program on its list - for example a DAW - is being launched. This way you can set your power profile to Balanced for whenever browsing the internet, watching movies, working on documents, etc. and never change it manually.EvilDragon wrote:For a desktop computer, especially a DAW, it's best to have power options set to High Performance ALYWAYS.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 438 posts since 21 Feb, 2006
i swaped out the SSD with another one with the same DAWs drivers and everything.
same problem, the clicking poping sounds.
so i doubt its some kind of driver issue, must be hardware. i know for a fact the sound card works fine.
im guessing its the graphics card or its the motherboard.
im out of ideas
same problem, the clicking poping sounds.
so i doubt its some kind of driver issue, must be hardware. i know for a fact the sound card works fine.
im guessing its the graphics card or its the motherboard.
im out of ideas
- KVRAF
- 23101 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
You won't know if it's not the soundcard (+ its drivers or A4A) unless you try another one (preferably not M-Audio) with its own ASIO drivers.
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
If you mean the latency problem, then it is a sh*t problem! Sorry!zoogoo wrote:yes my problem is exactly what you are describing.EnGee wrote:Have you tested with Reaper? It has clearer CPU usage graph and numbers. I also suggest to test some other demos like Bitwig and Studio One and compare with Ableton Live results.
I had a problem with my laptop and windows 7 some years ago. It was also a latency problem, I think, that had nothing to do with the processor. It was this problem with some WLAN drivers and Windows 7. Do you hear this noise randomly? or only when your CPU maxing out?
Keep on it, and you will reach to the main reason. If you have a friend with an external audio interface, it would be good, so you can test it as well in your system.
Ive used other DAWs, same clicking sound regardless of what latencymon says. sometimes it reads its working, when clearly im having a problem.
odly enough coming out of left ear.
not my mixer,card,headphones, exta.....all been troubleshooted and work fine.
i think i read something about the wlan drivers, not sure what to do though. yes im using windows 7
You need to check for an alternative driver for your wireless card. But first let's see, how do you connect to the internet? I supposed with a wireless card?
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Why don't you upgrade to Windows 10? I have never had such problem since I used Win 10 (the laptop was also upgraded to Windows 10 and it works perfect!). Unless, something that really stops you from the upgrade, then I believe Windows 10 would be the better choice.
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- KVRist
- 52 posts since 13 Dec, 2017
Ryzen CPUs don't play nicely with Windows 7, also , as i remember correctly, Microsoft won't be supporting this new CPUs (including Intel's new ones also) on Win 7. I bet all this problems you having will be gone as soon as you move to Win 10.
Yes, i know, Win 7 is the best, blablabla, but eventually you will have to switch to Win 10, it's just the way it is.
I remember some people swearing on Win 98, then on WIn XP, they all had to move on at some point. The sooner you make the move, the better
Yes, i know, Win 7 is the best, blablabla, but eventually you will have to switch to Win 10, it's just the way it is.
I remember some people swearing on Win 98, then on WIn XP, they all had to move on at some point. The sooner you make the move, the better
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- KVRian
- 701 posts since 9 May, 2005
Live 10 may not (yet) be fully optimized.zoogoo wrote: Is overclocking really neccesary to make a marginal difference? this CPU is ranked like #40 on speed benchmark list. Im sure it will help, but is it really fixing my problem here? sounds like if its a buffering audio on a single core then the difference will only be marginal.
Do you have a copy of Live 9 to compare?
In a situation where one CPU core is being hit hard, having significantly lower clock-speed is a major disadvantage.
Locking the processor at its highest Turbo frequency isn't much of an over-clock.
If possible (and you have proper cooling), it'll get your clock-speed up a bit (with no throttling down)... which might help mitigate the problem.
Multi-threaded scenarios (ie: video rendering) is where the Ryzen CPUs really shine.
Since-thread scenarios (like the issue you describe) is Ryzen's "Achilles-Heal".
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Drivers could be the problem, the truth is the majority of audio interfaces brands make very poor ASIO drivers, but you will have to compare to an RME to really see the difference between a good and a mediocre driver.
The other thing that may cause audio glitches is CPU over heating, I had this problem once when the CPU cooler got full of dust (and it was the stock one), I changed to a bigger and better CPU cooler and the problems went away.
Just download HWmonitor to check the temperatures, if the CPU is going into 90° then it might be time to get a better cooler. If you ar ein a laptop maybe take it to a technician so we can apply thermal paste and resit the CPU heatsink.
The other thing that may cause audio glitches is CPU over heating, I had this problem once when the CPU cooler got full of dust (and it was the stock one), I changed to a bigger and better CPU cooler and the problems went away.
Just download HWmonitor to check the temperatures, if the CPU is going into 90° then it might be time to get a better cooler. If you ar ein a laptop maybe take it to a technician so we can apply thermal paste and resit the CPU heatsink.
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- KVRAF
- 1943 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
Still keep in mind the stuff about Live 10 causing abnormal CPU utilization on some systems currently, too. It seems your system does have some unfortunate issues with DPC, but if you're unlucky, you are being hit with two things at the same time: your system, as far as realtime low-latency operation goes, and also the Live 10 CPU problem. If it's also the latter, what you are seeing isn't indicative of how the DAW should run, by a long shot. The DPC stuff is very evident, but the way you get mad CPU loads just by adding an LFO (or something in that vein) suggests there's also the Live problem present.
Could you perhaps attach a project file you are having trouble running, and some of us can check it out on the Live 10 demo (or full version, if already done with the upgrade) ?
Could you perhaps attach a project file you are having trouble running, and some of us can check it out on the Live 10 demo (or full version, if already done with the upgrade) ?
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
I believe he said the build is new. Anyway, doesn't the motherboard come with a CD that had a utility to monitor the different parts of the computer like heat and speed? It also updates all necessary drivers for the motherboard.
- KVRAF
- 1943 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
Yeah, that's usually the main situation where one notices a system isn't suitable for low-latency stuff.EnGee wrote:I believe he said the build is new.
I hope the machine starts behaving by disabling all unnecessary components, installing new drivers and perhaps going with a different audio interface and/or GPU. In general, a good precaution is to tell the dealer you are going to use the system for low-latency audio, and ask whether you can return the system (or bring it in for considerable alterations) if it exhibits problems in its intended use. A precaution because there's nothing "wrong" with the system as far as actual warranty is concerned. This way you can be sure you end up with a solid audio workstation. If the dealer isn't okay with this, find one that is
- KVRAF
- 9576 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Did you build it yourself?
The fact that you didnt know how to access Windows Power Management via the Control Panel reveals alot.
Do you know someone with more technical knowledge than yourself who can look at your setup.
Im betting on a BIOS setting if its not the soundcard/driver
The fact that you didnt know how to access Windows Power Management via the Control Panel reveals alot.
Do you know someone with more technical knowledge than yourself who can look at your setup.
Im betting on a BIOS setting if its not the soundcard/driver
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- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
You might also have to download the latest AMD drivers from their site. Without them the dedicated Ryzen power profile might be missing from your options in Windows.
Not sure, but slow RAM could also be a problem. There were several issues initially. A BIOS update should fix that in most cases, though.
Not sure, but slow RAM could also be a problem. There were several issues initially. A BIOS update should fix that in most cases, though.