Fighting Age, i.e. What Should I Like Now?

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ATS
KVRAF
5985 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:03 am

vurt wrote:i went to school with a kid, by the time wed left school his entire record, tape and cd collection consisted of music written hundreds of years before we where born.
he couldn't understand why the rest of us would listen to what he heard as noise, which was everything from the beatles through to the grindcore stuff.

what i liked about him, although he didn't enjoy what we played he wouldn't sit and moan about it, instead he would passionately explain why he liked something, a particular piece or movement.

as much as i rag on coldplay, id rather hear someone telling me with passion why they like that, than using the same passion to tell me why something else is shit.


ie like what you like and f**k everyone else but allow them to do the same.

vive la difference!

like it vurt :) good post
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Aloysius
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22434 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from a computer

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:39 am

Get off my lawn :x
This little piggy went to the butchers ...

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AsPeeXXXVIII
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352 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:37 am

morelia wrote:Just one thought I have is that you spend a lot of time/effort/money finding your audience and getting a share of the market. There is some risk to that by changing your sound.
Not denying that there's some truth to this statement, but I do think that you wouldn't want to get too stale either. Bands that "play it safe" all the time grow to be boring, a prime example of this being the Finnish metal band Kotiteollisuus. Literally almost all of their songs sound the same - same tempo, same drum beat, probably even the same damn key!

Ultimately, it's a good idea to slowly expand your sound instead of changing it drastically, though even that will inevitably alienate a small portion of your fanbase.
"Creativity is a lot like sex. When it's spontaneous, it's good, but forcing it makes it bad."
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KVRAF
1937 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: Fighting Age, i.e. What Should I Like Now?

Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:26 am

edit: shit, edited wrong post.Was trying to requote my original, not change it.

Never mind.
Last edited by samsam on Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:35 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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Bombadil
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2090 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from The Schwarzwald of My Mind

Re: Fighting Age, i.e. What Should I Like Now?

Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:11 am

No, I love music. I don't like disposable product. I don't like fake. I don't have to defend my taste any more than you do. I love everything from Renaissance to Classical, to some jazz, blues, early rock n' roll to progressive rock. The era from 1963-1977 is what I am most passionate about.
“Not all who wander are lost.”
J.R.R. Tolkien

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KVRAF
1937 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:46 am

There was no 'taste' to defend, really, your post was basically ust criticising stuff.

Of course, enjoy what you like.

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Bombadil
KVRAF
2090 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from The Schwarzwald of My Mind

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:50 am

A part of 'taste' is knowing what I don't like. All my favourie bands were gone by the mid-80s. Corporate conglomerations bought out more and more FM radio stations and homogenized their playlists. Genesis had jumped the shark, and the David Bowie of 'Ziggy' 'Diamond Dogs' and 'Low' was now singing 'Let's Dance.' He jumped the shark for me, too, by that point.

The kicker being, no one emerged with the talent and vision to take the place of the music I loved, let alone transcend it.

By the mid-70's, I used to wonder 'who will be the next Beatles?' 40+ years later, it still hasn't happened, and it never will.

No one will ever pull off what Pink Floyd did, either, or Led Zep.

The music I love is sacred to me. So, please forgive me if I take exception to your comment.

I used to hate disco, as well, but at least it was live un-autotuned singers and actual musicians making it. I've come to appreciate it, over time.

Genres like rap/hiphop, EDM, metal, are all valid forms of musical expression. They simply don't resonate with me. Their affectations don't resonate with me, either.
“Not all who wander are lost.”
J.R.R. Tolkien

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vurt
addled muppet weed
38334 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:54 am

you don't like metal, hip hop or lego?
man, i couldn't imagine a life so empty :o








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Skorpius
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492 posts since 6 Mar, 2012

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:16 am

Although some people might be offended by my statement, I would say that most modern music has become disposable. Music by, for example, Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga to me is throw-away plastic pop with no value and with no artistic craftsmanship inherent in its writing.

Take songs like "Child in time", "Bat out of hell", "Bohemian Rhapsody" or "Eloise", just to name a few. None of those Rap or Pop "composers" would even get anywhere near the creation of such masterpieces.

Yes, I'm outdated and unfashionable with regard to my musical taste. While I do like some of the new music that's played on the radio, I don't like most of it, for the reasons stated above.

And basically, my music taste got stuck in the '80s. But I really couldn't care less! Apart from classical music, nowadays I mostly listen to the same stuff I used to listen to back in the '80s - which is my own songs. :)

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vurt
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38334 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:26 am

Skorpius wrote:Although some people might be offended by my statement, I would say that most modern music has become disposable. Music by, for example, Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga to me is throw-away plastic pop with no value and with no artistic craftsmanship inherent in its writing.
but hasn't that been the case with most pop since the creation of pop?
even the beatles, their first records are bloody awful lyrically.

this is using pop to describe a style rather than a shorthand for "popular".

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Bombadil
KVRAF
2090 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from The Schwarzwald of My Mind

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:33 am

vurt wrote:you don't like metal, hip hop or lego?
man, i couldn't imagine a life so empty :o








:P
I thought I already told you:

GET OFF MY LAWN, PUNK! :x
“Not all who wander are lost.”
J.R.R. Tolkien

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vurt
addled muppet weed
38334 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:39 am

:lol:

im sat in your lawn chair too :P

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
KVRAF
10765 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:41 am

Skorpius wrote:Take songs like "Child in time", "Bat out of hell", "Bohemian Rhapsody" or "Eloise", just to name a few. None of those Rap or Pop "composers" would even get anywhere near the creation of such masterpieces.
They all pale in comparison to the genius that is 'Trapped In The Closet' :shrug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFosUj6 ... E56D446962

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vurt
addled muppet weed
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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:43 am

:hihi:

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Bombadil
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2090 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from The Schwarzwald of My Mind

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Post Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:47 am

It's hard to laugh and force barf at the same time....
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