Women producers!! Where are you!

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Today half the world is fighting against discrimination on women. I ask myself why there aren't as many women producers or aspiring to be. There's hardly any sector in which there's such a difference, at least in my country.

C'mon girls we need your art and your music in this world !!! :hug:

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They exist, but most of the ones I know are more serious than us guys who spend all days on forums talking about the next best plugin :lol:
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Very tempted to do a variation on the "I'm Spartacus and so..." line here, but instead I'll be serious and state that I think this female producer is on really great form currently:


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V0RT3X wrote:They exist, but most of the ones I know are more serious than us guys who spend all days on forums talking about the next best plugin :lol:
Well then there my error, girls start loosing time in forums!! :lol:

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Many of the pioneers of electronic music were/are women and there are lots of women creating fantastic innovative electronic music today still, particularly using modular synths. If you don't know this maybe you need to look more closely, inequality is a problem but invisibility is made worse when people don't even acknowledge the contribution that women have already made and continue to make.

http://www.msmodular.com/?page_id=2
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aMUSEd wrote:Many of the pioneers of electronic music were/are women and there are lots of women creating fantastic innovative electronic music today still, particularly using modular synths. If you don't know this maybe you need to look more closely, inequality is a problem but invisibility is made worse when people don't even acknowledge the contribution that women have already made and continue to make.

http://www.msmodular.com/?page_id=2
Totally agree with that! Visibility is the key.

In some styles I like there's definitely a lack of women producers (known). In others it doesn't happen, but still missing more presence.

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Not only do women deserve more respect/recognition, they deserve some help from those who have benefited from the unfair advantages of working in boys-club environments. That includes me. The tough part is convincing those who take those advantages for granted, that the point isn't to favor one gender over another, it's about parity. It's about equality. It's about leveling the playing field. So many of us have become comfortable with the status-quo that we feel something is being taken from us, when presented with the idea that some sacrifices need to be made, for the sake of equality.

That's not to say that women can't succeed without the help of men but they can't succeed if men won't give them equal time and recognition of their talents. So many times I watched women passed over for work/promotions, even when their skills surpassed mine. That hasn't happened at my current job... but at my previous job and as a freelance worker. I have spoken out about discrimination that I saw, sometimes to my own detriment. I can't in good conscience continue to move up if my female colleagues are not extended the same opportunities.

I wanna boost my good friend Deb (Debra1rlo, for those who remember). Long time KVR member and multi-instrumentalist for the Gitane Demone Quartet. She just started a new job at an LA studio and she worked damn hard to get where she is.

I'd encourage everyone to promote the work of women you know, today. Strike that... everday or at least some days. A friend, a family member- no matter what they do- take a moment to publicly show that you appreciate their work and their existence.
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I worked with Anna Sitko (https://anon-music.com/home/) and Laura Escude (https://www.lauraescude.com/), when I worked at AVID/M-Audio. Super talented people, and I'm surprised that they aren't house hold names at this point.

Anna now works for Malekko Heavy Industries and Laura is an amazingly talented musician and producer. Check out their work!

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justin3am wrote:Not only do women deserve more respect/recognition, they deserve some help from those who have benefited from the unfair advantage of working in boys-club environments. That includes me. The tough part is convincing those who take those advantages for granted, that the point isn't to favor one gender over another, it's about parity. It's about equality. It's about leveling the playing field. So many of us have become comfortable with the status-quo that we feel that something is being taken from us, when presented with the idea that some sacrifices need to be made, for the sake of equality.

That's not to say that women can't succeed without the help of men but they can't succeed if men won't give them equal time and recognition of their talents. So many times I watched women passed over for work/promotions, even when their skills surpassed mine. That hasn't happened at my current job... but at my previous job and as a freelance worker. I have spoken out about discrimination that I saw, sometimes to my own detriment. I can't in good conscience continue to move up if my female colleagues are not extended the same opportunities.

I wanna boost my good friend Deb (Debra1rlo, for those who remember). Long time KVR member and multi-instrumentalist for the Gitane Demone Quartet. She just started a new job at an LA studio and she worked damn hard to get where she is.

I'd encourage everyone to promote the work of women you know, today. Strike that... everday or at least some days. A friend, a family member- no matter what they do- take a moment to publicly show that you appreciate their work and their existence.
Brilliant analysis :clap:

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But in all sewiousness, Mrs. Jinx is an amazing producer. Great melodic IDM.
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*edit* - Thanks for cleaning this thread up
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It just seems to me that a discussion like this which was started in good faith gets turned into a "hyde park corner" thread; that says something very unhealthy about us. Our tribal notions of retributive bloodlust as a form of justice; our irrational and incoherent assertions and arbitrary standards are across the board just misery-inducing.

I wish there was a way to just stop all of the harm. Instead of lead (or whatever is used these days) bullets, I wish we had a "rational actor" virus coupled to some kind of nanotech, which we could shoot at each other the moment somebody starts to harm anyone else. The virus would deliver some neuron-editing nanotech that would synch up the lymbic brain and the frontal lobes (or whatever it is), and fire up those mirror neurons, so the idiot about to engage in abuse would know better. Maybe.

Here's to Delia Derbyshire, without whom I'd have never touched a keyboard! And Jewel Kilcher, without whom I'd have never opened my pie-hole to shriek and wail in an attempt to sing (You can add Pat Benatar and more recently Lzzy Hale to that list, for making me even more ridiculous about it.)

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Just for the record, it was never my intention for my irreverence to contribute to moving this thread to HPC, if that's at issue. People have a right to express their opinion on this, just as I have a right to make fun of it because I think it's kind of silly.

Mods, please move this back!
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V0RT3X wrote:Looks like you trolls successfully got this moved to HPC.

The Mod could have just deleted the OT posts and told people to stay on topic, but nope..
You're right. It was (and is) a matter of time and energy. I didn't have either last night when I moved the thread. I have nearly none of the latter today, but I deleted most of the crap, so let's try this again.

NOTE TO ALL: If you want to post hilarious sexist jokes, or tell us all how wicked and dangerous feminism is, or post he-man woman hater bullshit, DO IT SOMEPLACE ELSE. HPC, maybe, but preferably at another site entirely. Further posts of that type will be removed (when I get to them) and warnings, etc. may follow. If you have a problem with this, start a thread in Site Stuff or PM Ben.
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I would love to see more female producers here on KVR! I know there are some but I don't think they are very active in the forum.

I also wonder if I am the only woman taking part in the One Synth Challenges?

As a woman myself I would say the technical side of production is the most intimidating thing. This is still the case for me but I slowly change my view from wanting to get a technical "perfect" mix to realizing that it's the song that is most important and that there is no completely "correct" way to mix/master a song.

Well, I just stumbled about a nice short video about Sylvia Massy, which is very inspiring especially for me as a female. She's awesome!


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