One Synth Challenge #109: Fathom Synth by Seaweed Audio (mmGhost wins!)
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- KVRAF
- 1584 posts since 25 Mar, 2017
bluerobot, there's a new release 2.9 coming out in a couple days which will fix a lot of things.
Pick a few of the problems you are having, list the exact steps to reproduce, and I will make sure they are fixed for the next release 2.9.
Pick a few of the problems you are having, list the exact steps to reproduce, and I will make sure they are fixed for the next release 2.9.
Last edited by FathomSynth on Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRian
- 850 posts since 20 Oct, 2003 from Seattle
Re bugs, in Live 10, MacBook Pro Siera, no parameters show when trying to select from automation lanes in arrange view.
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- KVRAF
- 1584 posts since 25 Mar, 2017
Click on the name of the dial you want to automate from the host.
(User Guide section 3. Host Automation)
(User Guide section 3. Host Automation)
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- KVRian
- 850 posts since 20 Oct, 2003 from Seattle
Ah. I read that section but must not have understood. I tried again and yes indeed. When in the app, if I click on the label of a control, it then is added to the list of automation lane options to selection from in Live. It didn't select it in the host as other synths seem to do but it does add it as list item which I can then selection.FathomSynth wrote:Click on the name of the dial you want to automate from the host.
(User Guide section 3. Host Automation)
Thanks! This will help immensely.
- KVRian
- 939 posts since 31 May, 2017
Is anyone else having problems with crashes in Logic? (Sorry if this has been addressed, I only skimmed this long thread). I am on MacOS Sierra and Logic 10.4.1.
Basically when I make a simple patch (1 or 2 oscillators fed into a filter or 2, with modulation on a couple of parameters) it will play fine but then Logic instantly crashes when I hit record.
Basically when I make a simple patch (1 or 2 oscillators fed into a filter or 2, with modulation on a couple of parameters) it will play fine but then Logic instantly crashes when I hit record.
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- KVRAF
- 1838 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
jasinski wrote:Ah. I read that section but must not have understood. I tried again and yes indeed. When in the app, if I click on the label of a control, it then is added to the list of automation lane options to selection from in Live. It didn't select it in the host as other synths seem to do but it does add it as list item which I can then selection.FathomSynth wrote:Click on the name of the dial you want to automate from the host.
(User Guide section 3. Host Automation)
Thanks! This will help immensely.
Please dont give this guy any help.
Just kidding.
I cant wait to hear what you do with this.
We jumped the fence because it was a fence not be cause the grass was greener.
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- KVRAF
- 2393 posts since 7 Mar, 2014
Yeah! Help him by all means - just give him the wrong info - he's just TOO good!!!!!!Scrubbing Monkeys wrote: ...
Please dont give this guy any help.![]()
Just kidding.
I cant wait to hear what you do with this.
Hehe --
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- KVRist
- 146 posts since 25 Apr, 2015
Thanks, TheNeverScene! Track sounding great!
Ok, FathomSynth! Will look for 2.9 when available.
@FathomSynth... the big problems I'm having are...
* glitching audio (note that audio seems clean when I do Export, but it's distracting when playing back in real-time in Ableton). I can see the CPU meter in Ableton jumping to over 100% when the glitches occur (generally it's around 60 or 70% with one instance), and the CPU meter in Fathom is holding around 50%.
* don't really understand the steps to load a wavetable into the wavetable oscillator... Not sure if that's a bug or if I just don't understand how to do it. I can bring stuff up in the browser, but if I select something (which doesn't always seem to 'take') it doesn't load when I click 'Load'.
* this is more a 'feature request' than a bug fix: would be great if it were possible to temporarily mute elements in the signal flow without having to change the volume. Maybe this exists, but I just don't see it?
EDIT: I see from your tutorial video, FantomSynth, that the mute feature is there. Seems to work for you on Windows, but is not working for me on Mac, just FYI.
EDIT 2: I downloaded to my Mac Pro (8 core), and the CPU glitching issues appear to be resolved there (not completely, but much more usable). So, I guess I know where I'll be working on this project.
EDIT 3: Loading wavetables and muting still not working on Mac Pro.
Ok, FathomSynth! Will look for 2.9 when available.
@FathomSynth... the big problems I'm having are...
* glitching audio (note that audio seems clean when I do Export, but it's distracting when playing back in real-time in Ableton). I can see the CPU meter in Ableton jumping to over 100% when the glitches occur (generally it's around 60 or 70% with one instance), and the CPU meter in Fathom is holding around 50%.
* don't really understand the steps to load a wavetable into the wavetable oscillator... Not sure if that's a bug or if I just don't understand how to do it. I can bring stuff up in the browser, but if I select something (which doesn't always seem to 'take') it doesn't load when I click 'Load'.
* this is more a 'feature request' than a bug fix: would be great if it were possible to temporarily mute elements in the signal flow without having to change the volume. Maybe this exists, but I just don't see it?
EDIT: I see from your tutorial video, FantomSynth, that the mute feature is there. Seems to work for you on Windows, but is not working for me on Mac, just FYI.
EDIT 2: I downloaded to my Mac Pro (8 core), and the CPU glitching issues appear to be resolved there (not completely, but much more usable). So, I guess I know where I'll be working on this project.
EDIT 3: Loading wavetables and muting still not working on Mac Pro.
Last edited by bluerobot on Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:34 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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- KVRian
- 653 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia
Goodness gracious I'm getting some nice patches out of this synth. I'm struggling as to which direction to take. You won't be disappointed by this months submissions dev. The sound quality is gonna be great. A little work intensive and could use some workflow optimizations, but the synth delivers.
- KVRist
- 54 posts since 2 Jan, 2016 from France
Hi everyone,
my first participation to the OSC. Here my track :
https://soundcloud.com/user-587768598/f ... entexpress
Reaper 5.77
27 fathom tracks
Only presets with minor tweaks. Thanks to Peter:H for the tympani patch
Plugins :
TDR Vos SlickEQ
Tal-reverb 4
Limiter6
Reacomp
my first participation to the OSC. Here my track :
https://soundcloud.com/user-587768598/f ... entexpress
Reaper 5.77
27 fathom tracks
Only presets with minor tweaks. Thanks to Peter:H for the tympani patch
Plugins :
TDR Vos SlickEQ
Tal-reverb 4
Limiter6
Reacomp
Soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/user-587768598
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- KVRAF
- 1584 posts since 25 Mar, 2017
All the tracks posted so far have been really amazing.
I like that people seemed to be getting some really diverse sounds of this synth.
People, I have not forgotten about any of the bugs posted recently.
I will try to get everything into 2.9.0.
Today though I need to start right into coding some fixes for the earlier bugs.
I'll go through the recent posts a little later.
Functionform, Thanks!
Bluerobot, I’ll make sure your issues listed above get resolved.
Local Man, Your Mac OSX problem is top priority.
2.9.0 will have the first build for Sierra actually built in Sierra.
So I’m hoping this will resolve the issue for you.
I will also try to recreate it myself with logic in Sierra.
If there are any more steps you can list in addition to just hitting record you can post them here and I will try it. Also maybie post the preset xml.
I like that people seemed to be getting some really diverse sounds of this synth.
People, I have not forgotten about any of the bugs posted recently.
I will try to get everything into 2.9.0.
Today though I need to start right into coding some fixes for the earlier bugs.
I'll go through the recent posts a little later.
Functionform, Thanks!
Bluerobot, I’ll make sure your issues listed above get resolved.
Local Man, Your Mac OSX problem is top priority.
2.9.0 will have the first build for Sierra actually built in Sierra.
So I’m hoping this will resolve the issue for you.
I will also try to recreate it myself with logic in Sierra.
If there are any more steps you can list in addition to just hitting record you can post them here and I will try it. Also maybie post the preset xml.
- KVRian
- 939 posts since 31 May, 2017
That's great to hear. It's awesome to see a developer so involved and taking so many steps to ensure a good user experience.FathomSynth wrote:
Local Man, Your Mac OSX problem is top priority.
2.9.0 will have the first build for Sierra actually built in Sierra.
So I’m hoping this will resolve the issue for you.
I will also try to recreate it myself with logic in Sierra.
If there are any more steps you can list in addition to just hitting record you can post them here and I will try it. Also maybie post the preset xml.
I'll try to see if I can come up with some reproducible sequence of steps to show this behavior. If not I will post a patch.
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- KVRAF
- 1584 posts since 25 Mar, 2017
Local Man, Could you post your preset which is crashing in Mac Logic.
Bluerobot, I just tested both 2.7 and 2.9 in my Mac Sierra and I have no trouble loading wave tables.
From the Wave Table parameters page hit File, the browse to a wave table and hit load table.
Double check the manual: Section 8.4 Saving and Loading Waves and Wave Tables. To see if maybe you are doing something wrong. If you’re sure that you are doing it right and it is still not working let me know. Do you have the ability to make a video?
You can mute audio components simply by clicking on them. They will turn Red. This is currently broken in Mac OSX but is already fixed in 2.9 coming out soon.
Bluerobot, I just tested both 2.7 and 2.9 in my Mac Sierra and I have no trouble loading wave tables.
From the Wave Table parameters page hit File, the browse to a wave table and hit load table.
Double check the manual: Section 8.4 Saving and Loading Waves and Wave Tables. To see if maybe you are doing something wrong. If you’re sure that you are doing it right and it is still not working let me know. Do you have the ability to make a video?
You can mute audio components simply by clicking on them. They will turn Red. This is currently broken in Mac OSX but is already fixed in 2.9 coming out soon.
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- KVRian
- 653 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia
Is there ring modulation somewhere? I thought I saw it but now I can't find it anywhere. Also, my kingdom for a bitcrusher.
- KVRist
- 377 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Slovakia
I agree. Looks like this developer really trying so hard. It is almost unbelievableLocal Man wrote: That's great to hear. It's awesome to see a developer so involved and taking so many steps to ensure a good user experience.
I'll try to see if I can come up with some reproducible sequence of steps to show this behavior. If not I will post a patch.
Does anybode have problem with ADSR? No matter how I try I always get clicks here and there and specially with very short notes while I try to create some ostinato. This synth doesn't like short note. Thirty-second notes and shorter with quick repetition. It get audible even more with setting note release to logarithmic decay, It almost look like it never reach zero value no matter what decay settings.
I trying to build brass section and it need few adsr modulators here and there.
I also need to confirm - synth have 32 voice polyphony. It is 32 per one oscillator or for whole instrument instance? Also when using unison 8 voices detune does it mean 3 note chord - 24 voices? I get some voice stealing while I try to play another note on same instance with 3 note chord wich should still be 32 voices. I have set max polyphony in signal flow. I'm using lastest Pro (2.8.0) version 64 bit in flstudio.
