MIDI editing in Live 4?

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dr.wackler wrote:
stale bread wrote:cntrL+1
cntrl+2
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Would you care to explain, Stale Bread?


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...they won't put a 2 button mouse on a Mac at a dealer either... As the Mac guy said to me at Comp USA... "it's an aesthetic thing"...DOH!

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OK I just had look at a G5 and though it is an impressive bit of engineering, I still find the MAC OS a huge turn off. So I don't think I would ever bring myself to spend money on a Mac. Especially just to run applications that run as well if not better (at least for me) on a PC.

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Beardedone wrote:OK I just had look at a G5 and though it is an impressive bit of engineering, I still find the MAC OS a huge turn off. So I don't think I would ever bring myself to spend money on a Mac. Especially just to run applications that run as well if not better (at least for me) on a PC.
Run linux on it then :) Expensive computer and free OS.

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Beardedone wrote:
OK I just had look at a G5 and though it is an impressive bit of engineering, I still find the MAC OS a huge turn off. So I don't think I would ever bring myself to spend money on a Mac. Especially just to run applications that run as well if not better (at least for me) on a PC.


Run linux on it then Expensive computer and free OS.
Now you are really scaring me! :lol:

See ya!

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dr.wackler wrote:
stale bread wrote:I undo quantization all the time, don't know why you say its destructive,
In Logic you can always return to the original unquantized version of your sequence. You can also jump between quantisation values as you like, Logic always does it based on the original unquantized version, not on the previous quantisation (e.g. in Ableton Live it wouldn't make any sense to quantize by 1/16th if previously you quantized by 1/8th).
Cubase works this way too. It's handy if you decide later that an earlier quantization wasn't what you wanted. In Live you have to undo every other change you've made since the quantization. This isn't a total showstopper for me but it is a hassle.

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DHR53 wrote:...they won't put a 2 button mouse on a Mac at a dealer either... As the Mac guy said to me at Comp USA... "it's an aesthetic thing"...DOH!
Huh? Comp USA is known for not having a clue when it comes to Macs. Every Mac store I've ever been in (including every Apple Store) has tons of multi-button mice available for sale. You can even buy them on Apple's online store too.

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He's a certified "Apple technician"... so tell him that! and furthermore, they were the only certified Apple retailers before the new Apple store... You can buy em' but Apple won't make one!

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Follow up report:

I did some more testing and found out that you can't offset a clip by anything less than a 16th note! To make things groovy - a few ticks is what you need. Am I overlooking something obvious here? It's a major feature missing otherwise. A real show stopper!

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ZooTooK wrote:I did some more testing and found out that you can't offset a clip by anything less than a 16th note!
Think different: Move the notes inside the clip instead.
It's easy: Select all and hold Ctrl(PC) or Cmd(Mac) while moving them.
With all further editing they will snap both to the grid and to their relative subposition, and you can move them to minus positions (i.e. to before the clip start) as well if you need to.
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dr.wackler wrote: It's easy: Select all and hold Ctrl(PC) or Cmd(Mac) while moving them.
With all further editing they will snap both to the grid and to their relative subposition, and you can move them to minus positions (i.e. to before the clip start) as well if you need to.
Thanks for the reply. It works fine for MIDI clips - how about audio? I can't work out how to nudge them... OK should RTFM.

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sorry doc, i mistook you for talking about the grid zoom, you just meant viewing though.

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ZooTooK wrote:Thanks for the reply. It works fine for MIDI clips - how about audio? I can't work out how to nudge them... OK should RTFM.
You can move the whole grid of warped clips by grabbing and moving the position 1 marker.
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stale bread wrote:sorry doc, i mistook you for talking about the grid zoom, you just meant viewing though.
Ahh, alright.
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dr.wackler wrote:
ZooTooK wrote:Thanks for the reply. It works fine for MIDI clips - how about audio? I can't work out how to nudge them... OK should RTFM.
You can move the whole grid of warped clips by grabbing and moving the position 1 marker.
cheers

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