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Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:46 pm

Huge plus, it loads both 32&64 bit VST's internally.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:06 pm

Zexila wrote:Huge plus, it loads both 32&64 bit VST's internally.

You should stop using 32 Bit plugin's, they will cause many problems, if not now, but in the future. I'm finding a few rogue 32 bit plugins in my 64 Bit directory causing problems with the scanning in Sonar, that really shouldn't be there. It wasn't a problem in Studio One's scanning, because it only recognises 64 Bit plugins.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:10 pm

THE INTRANCER wrote:
Zexila wrote:Huge plus, it loads both 32&64 bit VST's internally.
You should stop using 32 Bit plugin's, they will cause many problems, if not now, but in the future. I'm finding a few rogue 32 bit plugin's in my 64 Bit directory causing problems with the scanning in Sonar, that really shouldn't be there. It wasn't a problem in Studio One's scanning, because it only recognises 64 Bit plugins.

When they start causing problems, I will stop, until than, Pocket Limiter and the rest of the gang is here to stay.

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:53 pm

Zexila wrote:
THE INTRANCER wrote:
Zexila wrote:Huge plus, it loads both 32&64 bit VST's internally.
You should stop using 32 Bit plugin's, they will cause many problems, if not now, but in the future. I'm finding a few rogue 32 bit plugin's in my 64 Bit directory causing problems with the scanning in Sonar, that really shouldn't be there. It wasn't a problem in Studio One's scanning, because it only recognises 64 Bit plugins.
When they start causing problems, I will stop, until than, Pocket Limiter and the rest of the gang is here to stay.

If you have a problem opening a project due to a plugin, you can open in 'safe' mode by holding down 'shift' key when opening the project. You will then be prompted for each plugin to be allowed or not.

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:56 pm

Zexila wrote:Ok, first impressions, this is by far the most unintuitive DAW I ever had chance to try, quite overwhelming experience, so many stuff there, still can't find option to change piano roll grid size...

F1 key launches help screen.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:07 pm

Thanks for the tips.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:01 pm

robotmonkey wrote:
VitaminD wrote:
robotmonkey wrote:
satYatunes wrote:Anyone know what is included in the content version i.e. the first option when one launch the installer?
It also downloads the Cakewalk Studio Instruments installer.
Where does it house these installers? I did the 'full' download and see no Studio Instruments nor do I see the Cakewalk Effects (outside of the Sonitus plugs and Boost11) in the plugins list under 'Cakewalk' in Sonar
Installers should be in your Downloads folder what you have set in Windows. What I did was, was to let the Bandlab crap download and start the installation but when the UAC prompt popped up asking weather I would allow installation, I clicked cancel for both main installer and the instrument installer. After that you can run the installers manually.

There should be two files in your downloads: Cakewalk.exe and Instruments.exe

Thank you I did find them in my default Windows downloads folder (which I never use and thus never thought to check).

The instruments.exe says it is corrupted. So I deleted it expecting the bandlab assistant app to let me redownload it. nope.. haha oh well. I think I can just uninstall Cakewalk entirely and redownload it that way.

Thanks again for helping me!

Update: Yep uninstalled everything through the bandlab assistant app and then reinstsalled through it, got the 2 installers. now I have the host and the separate instruments installer ran and installed. The strings pack sounds nice

v1o · Post by **v1o** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:42 am

Its quite janky and buggy. Crashed on me during a drag and drop operation. There are no built in demo songs and no built in sounds, apart from a few loops that you drag and drop from the Bandlab helper app. Every DAW should have at least a basic synth and a drum machine.

Anyone know where the manual is? Is there a built in audio editor? Are there built in metering tools and audio analysers? The Bandlab website is quite basic and doesn't list the complete feature set.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:53 am

I smell Abandonware.

bill45 · Post by **bill45** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:35 am

Didn't update my account until yesterday.I hope I'm not too late.

Proteinshake · Post by **Proteinshake** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:41 am

v1o wrote:Its quite janky and buggy.

That's Sonar for you!

Some have suggested this may just be to hold people on the line and make them come back. But seriously .. if I'm giving something away for free it's only because I know it's crap.

Bandlab is turning more people off with this freebie than they'll ever make new future customers.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:33 am

fmr wrote:
robotmonkey wrote: Cubase is actually another DAW I don't like much because every time I fire it up, I immediately get flashbacks from the 1990's.
I see... Are you one of those guys more into the Live/Bitwig approach?

Maybe it's because the way I work with DAW's has changed quite a bit. I do consider Ableton to have a very lean and decent interface. Studio One has definitely a good interface. FL Studio I like a lot even though it lacks certain professionalism in its GUI design. I even like DP quite a lot.

The problem with Cakewalk and Cubase is that they have such a long legacy. They have obviously tried to modernize but they can't just throw their legacy overboard.

trancema · Post by **trancema** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:00 am

robotmonkey wrote:
fmr wrote:
robotmonkey wrote: Cubase is actually another DAW I don't like much because every time I fire it up, I immediately get flashbacks from the 1990's.
I see... Are you one of those guys more into the Live/Bitwig approach?
Maybe it's because the way I work with DAW's has changed quite a bit. I do consider Ableton to have a very lean and decent interface. Studio One has definitely a good interface. FL Studio I like a lot even though it lacks certain professionalism in its GUI design. I even like DP quite a lot.

The problem with Cakewalk and Cubase is that they have such a long legacy. They have obviously tried to modernize but they can't just throw their legacy overboard.

For me it's opposite, I find Ableton's interface extremely flat and boring going down since V8, especially after all those years of using it (since V4), it became boring and uninspiring to me. I like Bitwig's look way more - it's not skeuomorphism-istic, but perfectly 3D enough and modern at same time.
Cubase, IMO, since V6 everything looks way more polished and professional with perfect choice of colors, customization and skeuomorphism, which suddenly I miss nowadays where every single GUI on the planet tries to be "futuristic, modern and flat", it went too far, it feels like interface from early sci-fi TV shows.
Same story as Ableton, Logic Pro with version 10 (X) is step back, for my taste, in GUI department from V9 trying to be in sync with "millennial bug" of making everything "flat, cool and un-obstructive" (sacrificing workflow), although it's not as bad as Studio One V3.x
Studio One, since V3, is special story (in negative context) for me.
I just can't get over terrible flat GUI with lack of contrast and life in it. Choice of colors and tiny slim "generic" fonts which are the same all over GUI and not gradually defined transitions between main window elements of DAW are just dull. I have tried to customize its colors with limited built-in tools, but even with customization it needs lots more to look good and needs some dose of realism (like Logic) or different contrast approach (like Cubase) IMHO.
I love S1 workflow, but GUI since V3 makes it extremely boring, flat and unusable.
Hopefully V4 will fix this.
Sorry for slight OT

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:21 am

Proteinshake wrote:Bandlab is turning more people off with this freebie than they'll ever make new future customers.

Don't agree, they might turn off ex-Sonar users, but they have more attention from me and possibly others than if they just continued selling this, DAW market is taught and Sonar was underdog, now it have chance to be best free DAW on the market and actually used by folks outside of their usual customer base, I would never touch it for 499 mark, ever, especially give it second chance with first impressions I got, but now I'm giving it chance and really hope I will warm up to it when I get to know it better.

Also, Apple didn't bought Camel Audio to sell their plugins, they gave it away in their DAW, Bandlab buying Cakewalk just to have freebie to give isn't weird at all, marketing is expensive, being owner of best free DAW is good marketing for a brand.

digitalboytn · Post by **digitalboytn** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:22 am

I had many years of experience working with Cakewalk as my DAW since the Pro Audio 9 days last century and I had a fully loaded CW account...

Sonar is a great program and I was a very satisfied X3e Pro user until Henry da Vandal and his rapidly diminishing Gibson Corporation took over the reins....

I knew at that moment,that there was real trouble ahead for Cakewalk...

So I started playing around with Reaper 4 and Studio One 3 Pro...

Studio One felt like a toy and Reaper was a little confusing,but my deep disrespect for Henry da Vandal keep me plugging away...

In the meantime,Reaper 5 was released with huge improvements in efficiencies and workflow...

I use Reaper as my main DAW now,but I hope that everyone who is scooping up the free offering is going to put Cakewalk to good use and get some positive results out of it because it is also a very good DAW

Cakewalk Sonar Platinum is now free!