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Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:42 pm

It would be poor form to assume a specific percentage of Sonar users had jumped ship. There's just no way to get that claim validated. However, it's entirely acceptable to reference the examples of people self-reporting on forums that they've abandoned Sonar as a result of the end of the company. It doesn't give you statistics but it does give you an example of some user responses to the situation, and it's fair to then say "some people have jumped ship..."

swamptooth · Post by **swamptooth** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:55 pm

budd1405 wrote:
THE INTRANCER wrote:Uncovered an issue, it doesn't seem to see UHE's Hive instrument plugin... humm
I have a number of plugins it does not detect. No Native Instruments for example.
I have live and fruity loops and Live wins heads down for creation of a track.
I think I will explore this more when mastering because I think live could be better.
I noticed it had rewire, however when I opened a live project through rewire it also did not load the plugins, which is a big issue.
Might take a while to get the hang of ....

When running live as a rewire slave in any daw it does not load cats.

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:12 pm

v1o wrote:Its quite janky and buggy. Crashed on me during a drag and drop operation. There are no built in demo songs and no built in sounds, apart from a few loops that you drag and drop from the Bandlab helper app. Every DAW should have at least a basic synth and a drum machine.

Anyone know where the manual is? Is there a built in audio editor? Are there built in metering tools and audio analysers? The Bandlab website is quite basic and doesn't list the complete feature set.

There is built in demo songs as shown below, but you may need to install them first. The additional instruments.exe is the installer you can find in your download folder along side Cakewalk by Bandcamp. There is a drum kit instrument that is similar to what you see with the Addictive Drums plugin, a nice strings (Violin, Cello, Double Bass) plugin, a bass guitar plugin, and an electric piano plugin included also.

If you want sounds and effects, you can find a list here, containing 16 gigabytes worth ....

https://offers.adobe.com/en/na/audition ... LCSFX.html

Obsolete236871 · Post by **Obsolete236871** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:30 pm

Is it possible to use the included instruments / effects in other DAWs? Are they VST?

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:00 pm

Izak Synthiemental wrote:Is it possible to use the included instruments / effects in other DAWs? Are they VST?

As far as instruments, yes..

here's the string instrument in Studio one 3.5.6, as for effects...maybe, haven't tried.

Boone777 · Post by **Boone777** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:13 pm

A bunch of DXi instruments showed up in Reaper.

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:07 pm

It's weird, when I try to install Cakewalk, it gets stuck on "Installing..." and never completes. I first tried it last night and it got stuck, so I uninstalled everything this morning, re-installed, went out the door over 8 hours ago and when I came back it's still saying "Installing..."

How frustrating! Anyone else having this problem? Any idea what's going on?

satYatunes · Post by **satYatunes** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:43 pm

Russell Grand wrote:It's weird, when I try to install Cakewalk, it gets stuck on "Installing..." and never completes. I first tried it last night and it got stuck, so I uninstalled everything this morning, re-installed, went out the door over 8 hours ago and when I came back it's still saying "Installing..." How frustrating! Anyone else having this problem? Any idea what's going on?

I assume it's showing "Installing" on Bandlab assistant? If so, you can quit that program then double click on the Cakewalk.exe that you can find in your downloads folder. This will install the core program with Sonitus (DX effect suite) and some other plugins.
If you selected the content option then double click Instruments.exe file after installing Cakewalk.exe. It will install the Studio Instruments suite.
You don't need to run Bandlab assistant unless you want to download the loops, you can just quit the program and enjoy Cakewalk/Sonar.

Greenstorm33 · Post by **Greenstorm33** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:58 pm

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:31 pm

Steve Bolivar wrote:That plus an inherent hostility towards Cakewalk/Sonar in some people is really bringing out the hate. It just got re-released and someone is already prophesizing it's future as abandonware. Bandlab bought a fully functional DAW that lots of people use, dumped the corporate bloat and brought in some of the core development team to continue development. Bandlab itself is a very small company personnel wise. Maybe they're giving it away for free because it's part of a larger business plan that we don't know about. This isn't some shitty investment capitol firm that just wants to make a quick buck. People should be rooting for them to succeed and bring more innovative technologies to the DAW table. I'm not saying Cakewalk is the only innovator in the DAW game, they are not. But having more successful DAWs competing is a good thing for the end consumer.

It's not like they bought DubTurbo or Magix Music Maker to market to their users. Those are crap and should be free or the user should be paid to use them. If Bandlab had no interest in keeping Sonar going and developing it they just would've gone with something like DT or MMM. I'm not a Sonar fanboy. I did have a lifetime license but moved to Waveform during the great Fall of 2017 Migration. I hope they make it because that gives me one more option to move to or use alongside whatever my current DAW is in the future.

I like this post.

That is all.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:36 pm

Steve Bolivar wrote: It's not like they bought DubTurbo or Magix Music Maker to market to their users. Those are crap and should be free or the user should be paid to use them.

Your opinion.

I'm sure that a lot of thought and development flowed in each of those, and that the people buying them don't think they're so crap that they should be free either.

Concerning this, it makes me wonder why they give it away, and what their future plans are with it. My initial thought was that they want to build up a big user base, first of all. With an unchanged product, which isn't exactly what you'd call the most finished, polished and stable product, so, it could well backfire. And which, obviously, gets pretty devalued now, which makes me wonder double what they're gonna do with it.

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:38 pm

satYatunes wrote:
Russell Grand wrote:It's weird, when I try to install Cakewalk, it gets stuck on "Installing..." and never completes. I first tried it last night and it got stuck, so I uninstalled everything this morning, re-installed, went out the door over 8 hours ago and when I came back it's still saying "Installing..." How frustrating! Anyone else having this problem? Any idea what's going on?
I assume it's showing "Installing" on Bandlab assistant? If so, you can quit that program then double click on the Cakewalk.exe that you can find in your downloads folder. This will install the core program with Sonitus (DX effect suite) and some other plugins.
If you selected the content option then double click Instruments.exe file after installing Cakewalk.exe. It will install the Studio Instruments suite.
You don't need to run Bandlab assistant unless you want to download the loops, you can just quit the program and enjoy Cakewalk/Sonar.

Awesome thanks, I'll try it out!

Edit: worked just as you said. Thanks again.

jinotsuh · Post by **jinotsuh** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:44 pm

Romantique Tp wrote:Finally Sonar is being sold for what it's actually worth.

Well . . . I think it's still a tad overpriced all things considered, they should also be greasing users palms with a bit of green for the inconvenience of using Crapwalk, or Crapwalk by BandLab

THE INTRANCER · Post by **THE INTRANCER** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:45 pm

It's a shame, but I keep having this graphical and critical visual bug with the play marker, the only way to remove it is by quitting the program and restarting...creating a new song doesn't help, hopefully Bandlab Cakewalk devs will fix this in an update soon.

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:41 pm

jinotsuh wrote:
Romantique Tp wrote:Finally Sonar is being sold for what it's actually worth.
Well . . . I think it's still a tad overpriced all things considered, they should also be greasing users palms with a bit of green for the inconvenience of using Crapwalk, or Crapwalk by BandLab

Cakewalk Sonar Platinum is now free!