Kontakt updated to 5.8.0

[topaz]

Why are we forced to keep previous installers, Devs should keep previous version archives.

[Zombie Queen]

Download and run the NI Uninstall RegTool_64bit.exe

Thanks a lot. Got it.

[EvilDragon]

Why are we forced to keep previous installers, Devs should keep previous version archives.

And they most likely do, but you gotta contact NI support for that. NA doesn't support rolling back to previous versions, as it is now. It might at some point, but there was no clear confirmation on that front.

[Quasar]

I wonder whether we need a petition to show how relevant this issue is!

I'm all in favor of a petition.

[topaz]

Sure, but sometimes we need to rollback right away.

I will be keeping backups from now on

[Teksonik]

What an appalling piece of excrement NA is. They gave me Friday the 13th one hour early. I'm locked down, NA says Kontakt is not installed, installer won't run saying it's already installed, updater won't run saying it's not installed, Kontakt only runs in demo mode
Anyone knows what to clear in registry to be able to run the installer?

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I'm still running Service Center on my studio computer. If I "upgrade" to Native Access will I lose any of my libraries or experience issues with authorizing any of my current N.I. software ?

Not as far as I can tell. My SC to NA transition was pretty smooth. All previously authorized products stayed authorized.

I‘ve had no problems at all. Can not understand the Native Access bashing done by certain people here...

Just because you haven't had problems doesn't mean there are no problems. Anyway I've had no issues with Native Access on my studio computer because I've decided to stick with the Service Center and pass on installing this Kontakt update. From what I've read today that decision will stand for the foreseeable future.

[Zombie Queen]

From what I've read today that decision will stand for the foreseeable future.

They're funny things, Accidents. You never have them till you're having them.

Well, the uninstaller worked. So I just had to install a previous version and update that, which worked this time. I keep installers for all Kontakt versions, so I was able to sort it in 15 minutes once I found about the fix tool. It pissed me, but in the end it can pass as a minor annoyance.
KSP limits change for controllers and arrays is great news and I'm going to jump right into it. I imagine many devs will, so i might be worth the trouble to fight with Native Access to get the update sometime soon.

[Windy23451]

No problem for me with the update so far.

[CanoP]

In favour of a petition me too. I don't want to connect my tower pc to the internet there's not even the telephone line in that room. All I can do is get the key code on my laptop or phone!!! What the hell is that???

[rasmusklump]

From what I've read today that decision will stand for the foreseeable future.

They're funny things, Accidents. You never have them till you're having them.

Well, the uninstaller worked. So I just had to install a previous version and update that, which worked this time. I keep installers for all Kontakt versions, so I was able to sort it in 15 minutes once I found about the fix tool. It pissed me, but in the end it can pass as a minor annoyance.
KSP limits change for controllers and arrays is great news and I'm going to jump right into it. I imagine many devs will, so i might be worth the trouble to fight with Native Access to get the update sometime soon.

you really want to support such a company ?
I for sure will no longer.

[fmr]

From what I've read today that decision will stand for the foreseeable future.

They're funny things, Accidents. You never have them till you're having them.

Well, the uninstaller worked. So I just had to install a previous version and update that, which worked this time. I keep installers for all Kontakt versions, so I was able to sort it in 15 minutes once I found about the fix tool. It pissed me, but in the end it can pass as a minor annoyance.
KSP limits change for controllers and arrays is great news and I'm going to jump right into it. I imagine many devs will, so i might be worth the trouble to fight with Native Access to get the update sometime soon.

you really want to support such a company ?
I for sure will no longer.

NI makes some of the best virtual instruments in the market, they have one of the best "bang for the buck" packages in the market. They revolutionized the world of synthesis with Reaktor, and they revolutionized the world of sampling with Kontakt. Of course they deserve to be supported. What's your problem?

[Guenon]

I've decided to stick with the Service Center and pass on installing this Kontakt update. From what I've read today that decision will stand for the foreseeable future.

Same here. I'm a Komplete 10 Ultimate customer, with a wide selection of additional 3rd party libraries (from Spitfire, 8dio, Audiobro, Embertone, yada yada) for Kontakt. I've frozen the update state of all of this, to the last version still supporting Service Center, and my dedicated audio/music workstation works flawlessly in this state. I'm strongly in the camp of "don't fix it if it isn't broken", and at this time updating to Native Access would serve no purpose for me whatsoever. All it would do is, pose a risk of having to do completely unnecessary troubleshooting and reinstalling of numerous 3rd party libraries, trying to get this work "just because."

Until there is an actually compelling reason to transition -- I'm sure it will come, there just hasn't been one yet, and I'm not expecting one in the near future -- I'm just going to forget about the whole thing again, and keep using the setup as it currently is. I have images of the system in this state, so even if something fails on the hardware side, I'm just going to throw that image back in instead of going with NA

[noiseboyuk]

....Until there is an actually compelling reason to transition...

That's the rub, and it usually doesn't take very long. Every time a Player library is updated, it is now forced to be latest version only by NI, and of course new Player libraries are also latest version only. So all the while you update nothing (including bug fixes and new content for stuff you already own) and buy nothing you're ok. For many people, that's not very tenable as a long term position.

I have no issue with NA per se, but they do need to fix the Add Library issue for NI libraries as a minimum. Komplete Kontrol is similarly a very poor piece of software, that imo isn't fit for purpose. I've mentioned this before, but it's hard to understand how NI can make products that are so good and so advanced on the one hand, and yet core apps feel like they have had almost zero resources put into them.

[topaz]

Just to be clear, I am also a HUGE ni fan, and a Komplete Ultimate user.

I only have an issue with Major Libraries not working in a general release.

[Guenon]

That's the rub, and it usually doesn't take very long. Every time a Player library is updated, it is now forced to be latest version only by NI, and of course new Player libraries are also latest version only. So all the while you update nothing (including bug fixes and new content for stuff you already own) and buy nothing you're ok. For many people, that's not very tenable as a long term position.

True that. Personally, I haven't yet seen anything in the updates of the libraries I own that would make the new system a must have, but everyone's mileage will depend on what products they own and how they work, yeah. As the ones I use work so well in these Service Center era versions, at the moment it's more like: when is there a new feature introduced in some library that I think is just so good it starts to sound like a nice risk vs. reward proposition

This is of course very different if there are, for example, bugs in some library someone really needs to have fixed in order to keep working, and can't get those fixes without also going NA.